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pound per pound wrote: ↑09 Jun 2022, 11:19 I don't think he did despite numerous fights. He also did not draw the color line. With his style you'd figure a puncher would be his toughest match up because he was so active. Greb scribes a.k.a Klompton set us straight.

klompton wrote: ↑09 Jun 2022, 18:58

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 15:44 Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

pound per pound wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 09:21

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 15:44 Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 09:36

pound per pound wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 09:21

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 15:44 Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

They were known as big punchers in their time.

Btw your theory is a load of rubbish. Grebs chin untested after all the fights he had. Ridiculous.

pound per pound wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 14:11

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 09:36

pound per pound wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 09:21

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

They were known as big punchers in their time.

Btw your theory is a load of rubbish. Grebs chin untested after all the fights he had. Ridiculous.

No, they were not known punchers. I listed a few. Greb meet everyone, but he did not meet any punchers aside for from Tunney if your call him a puncher. Greb's chin was tested but not at a high level. That is my point. By saying it Ridiculous surely you jest. List the names so I can laugh at them by listing real punchers if you can. Now go!

pound per pound wrote: ↑14 Jun 2022, 09:14 Okay " Wee " Tommy. I won't ask you for something hard, like to produce names of punchers he meet, only to laugh at you definition of a punchers.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 10:58 Greb certainly fought some good punchers. Just the fact that he was really just a middleweight (a small light heavy at most) and was fighting heavyweight contenders has to count for something. And some top light heavyweights as well. Some of these he guys he fought several times.

bollocks wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 15:09 If you're a middleweight fighting LHWs and HWs then all those bigger opponents are punchers. It's all relative

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑18 Jun 2022, 06:23

bollocks wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 15:09 If you're a middleweight fighting LHWs and HWs then all those bigger opponents are punchers. It's all relative

Nah just spend three minutes working out KO% that’s how real research is done.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 11:59

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 10:58 Greb certainly fought some good punchers. Just the fact that he was really just a middleweight (a small light heavy at most) and was fighting heavyweight contenders has to count for something. And some top light heavyweights as well. Some of these he guys he fought several times.

Recently there’s been some very stupid posts in this forum. The OP ranks right up there. Greb fought and beat absolutely everyone from welterweight to heavyweight except the champs who wouldn’t fight him, like Jack Dempsey.

Now you have a few numpties reading boxrec making it all up as they go along, basing everything off KO percentages and just in general coming across as idiots.

These fighters, who we have little or no film of, fought with smaller gloves, under harsher referees, at short notice and literally fight to survive. To start to pick them apart 100 years later based on a boxing record websites incomplete information is just idiotic.

In terms of Harry Greb, there is an excellent book that’s packed full of information about the man and his career from first hand sources. It took the author near a decade to research and complete. It would be the first place I’d be looking for information on Greb.