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Arthur is a very good inside fighter. He knows very well how to cut off the ring, close the distance gap and then place smartly his short-compact and very powerful punches. Don't forget that he stopped Gvozik.

Bivol should just rematch Canelo first, get that big payday and then if he still have that belt unify with AB.

Btw, I'd like to see Beterbiev crushing that protected 0 of Zurdo Ramirez.

Nah, make Bivol vs Beterbiev next. Boxing fans won't get anything from these cashing out mismatches, we need the best fighting the best.

The Undisputed fight would always be my 1st pref

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:16 Arthur is a very good inside fighter. He knows very well how to cut off the ring, close the distance gap and then place smartly his short-compact and very powerful punches. Don't forget that he stopped Gvozik.

Bivol should just rematch Canelo first, get that big payday and then if he still have that belt unify with AB.

Btw, I'd like to see Beterbiev crushing that protected 0 of Zurdo Ramirez.

which fight do you want to see more, canelo-bivol 2 or bert-bivol?

canelo-artur brutality as a freak sideshow at some point would bring in the most $$$

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:59

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:16 Arthur is a very good inside fighter. He knows very well how to cut off the ring, close the distance gap and then place smartly his short-compact and very powerful punches. Don't forget that he stopped Gvozik.

Bivol should just rematch Canelo first, get that big payday and then if he still have that belt unify with AB.

Btw, I'd like to see Beterbiev crushing that protected 0 of Zurdo Ramirez.

which fight do you want to see more, canelo-bivol 2 or bert-bivol?

I'm not gonna lie. I have a sneaky wish of seeing Canelo vs Beterbiev at 175 lbs on Cinco de Mayo 2023, of course if Canelo will legitly beat Bivol in rematch.

golden_balls wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 05:08 canelo-artur brutality as a freak sideshow at some point would bring in the most $$$

Assuming that Canelo beats clearly Bivol in rematch and that Beterbiev doesn't get old overnight.

Meanwhile Beterbiev could stay busy vs Zurdo Ramirez or Yarde.

golden_balls wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 05:08 canelo-artur brutality as a freak sideshow at some point would bring in the most $$$

This is true, even though, Beterbiev-Bivol would be overall a better bout.
The casuals would be more interested to see Canelo take on Artur.
Especially if Canelo says certain things to hype up the bout.
Personally, I see Beterbiev busting up Canelo, en route to an 8th round tko.
Wheras, with Bivol, it would be Alot more competitive. I think that he "Could" go the distance with Beterbiev.
If he sticks to A survivalist approach that is.
Otherwise, Artur probably gets him out of there within 10 rounds, by means of sheer overwhelming Force.

Bivol should take the Canelo fight first, and no one could blame him.

Far less risk, far more reward.

It's a no brainer.

Beterbiev v Bivol is one for us fans next year.

I honestly don't think anyone cares about Bivol/Beterbiev outside of us hardcore fans. Sad that Beterbiev has not been managed well at all. He hasn't even reached the popularity Kovalev got.

I understand Bivol's lack of fan enthusiasm. The dude can put on absolute stinkers, but Beterbiev is an exciting fighter like Tank.

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:16Bivol definitely should cash in vs Canelo II, before he'd have to fight AB

Dmitry Bivol beats Artur Beterbiev, but this is irrelevant to this discussion.

Bob Arum claimed last week that Top Rank/ESPN wouldn’t consider pitting the victor of Beterbiev-Smith Jr. against DAZN’s Dmitry Bivol next.

Artur Beterbiev will likely face Anthony Yarde next.

I don’t know what Dmitry Bivol will do whilst he’s waiting for Canelo to beat GGG.

I strongly suspect that ESPN/Top Rank expect Canelo to eventually avenge his loss against Bivol, with the Mexican willing to sign a one-fight deal with them to engage in a title unification against Artur Beterbiev.

Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev would both prefer to face Canelo rather than fight each other.

daz74 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:41 The Undisputed fight would always be my 1st pref

Agree, I find it satisfying having one top dog, but for Bivol- he isn't going to see the same money as fighting Canelo again.
Beter isn't looking old yet, but there is definitely a time frame looming for him.

AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 13:17

golden_balls wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 05:08 canelo-artur brutality as a freak sideshow at some point would bring in the most $$$

This is true, even though, Beterbiev-Bivol would be overall a better bout.
The casuals would be more interested to see Canelo take on Artur.
Especially if Canelo says certain things to hype up the bout.
Personally, I see Beterbiev busting up Canelo, en route to an 8th round tko.
Wheras, with Bivol, it would be Alot more competitive. I think that he "Could" go the distance with Beterbiev.
If he sticks to A survivalist approach that is.
Otherwise, Artur probably gets him out of there within 10 rounds, by means of sheer overwhelming Force.

The casuals haven’t even heard of Canelo.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 05:37

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:16Bivol definitely should cash in vs Canelo II, before he'd have to fight AB

Dmitry Bivol beats Artur Beterbiev, but this is irrelevant to this discussion.

Bob Arum claimed last week that Top Rank/ESPN wouldn’t consider pitting the victor of Beterbiev-Smith Jr. against DAZN’s Dmitry Bivol next.

Artur Beterbiev will likely face Anthony Yarde next.

I don’t know what Dmitry Bivol will do whilst he’s waiting for Canelo to beat GGG.

I strongly suspect that ESPN/Top Rank expect Canelo to eventually avenge his loss against Bivol, with the Mexican willing to sign a one-fight deal with them to engage in a title unification against Artur Beterbiev.

Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev would both prefer to face Canelo rather than fight each other.

Bivol would probably wait Canelo for Sept. Its not so long. Why risking that huge payday?

It really depends how Canelo will look vs Bivol in their rematch. If Canelo would "beat" Bivol via judging bias then I doubt he'd fight Beterbiev next.

Beterbiev should fight Zurdo Ramirez and crush his protected 0, if no Bivol unification bout next.

Zurdo would be a nice scalp on AB's resume.

apollo creed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 09:01

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 05:37

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:16Bivol definitely should cash in vs Canelo II, before he'd have to fight AB

Dmitry Bivol beats Artur Beterbiev, but this is irrelevant to this discussion.

Bob Arum claimed last week that Top Rank/ESPN wouldn’t consider pitting the victor of Beterbiev-Smith Jr. against DAZN’s Dmitry Bivol next.

Artur Beterbiev will likely face Anthony Yarde next.

I don’t know what Dmitry Bivol will do whilst he’s waiting for Canelo to beat GGG.

I strongly suspect that ESPN/Top Rank expect Canelo to eventually avenge his loss against Bivol, with the Mexican willing to sign a one-fight deal with them to engage in a title unification against Artur Beterbiev.

Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev would both prefer to face Canelo rather than fight each other.

Bivol would probably wait Canelo for Sept. Its not so long. Why risking that huge payday?

It really depends how Canelo will look vs Bivol in their rematch. If Canelo would "beat" Bivol via judging bias then I doubt he'd fight Beterbiev next.

I’m not so sure.

If Canelo is really competitive against Dmitry Bivol, regardless the outcome, then I’d expect him have enough in his arsenal to beat Artur Beterbiev.

I have always believed that Canelo would find it far easier to overcome Beterbiev than Bivol, because Artur’s style is tailor made for the Mexican.

Of course, you could be right, Canelo may ultimately decide (after the Bivol rematch) that competing at 175lbs is simply a bridge too far for him.

And this could mean that any of the big-names competing at 175lbs may have to either agree to catchweights or to move down to 168lbs, if they harbour ambitions to receive any opportunity to be given a lottery-winning sized Canelo mega-payday.

Bivol's footwork, speed and size are too much for Canelo. I would not be surprised if Bivol would drop or even stop Canelo.

Canelo is gassing out at that weight class. Bivol knows he can handle Canelo's punches.

I think Bivol will fight Zurdo next.

If Canelo waits til GGG is 40, he'll wait til Beterbeiv is 45. In other words he will never fight him. Beterbeive is one guy that could KO Canelo. Who knows, Canelo may retire after losing to Bivol again, if it happens.