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Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 28 Jun 2022, 07:58
by big lennox
Does anyone know what he is up to these days? Is he still involved in Boxing? An underrated fighter in my humble opinion.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 05:05
by Spud

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 07:12
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 07:25
by stujones
Very underrated IMO. Yes, I used to question his pathway to the top at times - must be one of the only champions who won all his belts (except his last championship) in a vacant title fight. However, there a not many fighters we can say with confidence he was truly world class - Clev was one and the fact he has been forgotten about largely shows how underrated he is - compare his fame with that of Bellew's post career.

Seemed such a down to earth and mature / settled guy out of the ring when he was fighting. I did worry (as I did with Naz) about how much pressure he put on himself though with being undefeated.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 07:29
by big lennox
Thanks for these links. That is sad news. I noted that Gavin Rees, Joe Calzaghe, Gary Locket, Bradley Pryce and Enzo Mac are all still involved in boxing in some shape or form, but wondered if Cleverely is as well. He doesn't seem to be on ifltv interviews etc.

But, I hope he is well and gets the help he needs, if it is needed. Cleverely always struck me as being a good guy. What a stable of fighters Enzo Calzaghe had back in the day.

Spud, it is great to have you back posting on here again.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 09:33
by Spud
big lennox wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 07:29 Thanks for these links. That is sad news. I noted that Gavin Rees, Joe Calzaghe, Gary Locket, Bradley Pryce and Enzo Mac are all still involved in boxing in some shape or form, but wondered if Cleverely is as well. He doesn't seem to be on ifltv interviews etc.

But, I hope he is well and gets the help he needs, if it is needed. Cleverely always struck me as being a good guy. What a stable of fighters Enzo Calzaghe had back in the day.

Spud, it is great to have you back posting on here again.
Thank you pal :TU:

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 10:06
by TheLeprechaun
Underrated? He was very basic, just one style to him.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 11:11
by polecateddy
Seemed at his best in his uni days. As soon as he became a full-time pro he seemed to lose his touch.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 11:53
by TheLeprechaun
polecateddy wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 11:11 Seemed at his best in his uni days. As soon as he became a full-time pro he seemed to lose his touch.
Increase in opposition.

A very limited fighter.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 11:56
by margaret thatcher
good career for sure, won at almost all the levels. excellent conditioning but too easy to hit + a bit lacking in firepower at the highest level

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:07
by forcefraser
Isn't he off his.bonce on ecstasy pipe these days?

Seems to post some pretty deluded stuff on twitter

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:15
by Ezzard
I thought he was quality. High volume. I think what held him back was his defence. He wasn't a huge puncher and his big output always meant he would take some coming back. I always thought if he could have improved his defence he would have had even more success.

I was so pleased for him when he beat Brahmer.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:20
by forcefraser
Ezzard wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:15 I thought he was quality. High volume. I think what held him back was his defence. He wasn't a huge puncher and his big output always meant he would take some coming back. I always thought if he could have improved his defence ore he would have had even more success.

I was so pleased for him when he beat Brahmer.
He was ok up to a certain level. That fight with Fonfara showed us what we needed to know about Nathan's level.

Best win? Murat?

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:31
by Ezzard
forcefraser wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:20
Ezzard wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:15 I thought he was quality. High volume. I think what held him back was his defence. He wasn't a huge puncher and his big output always meant he would take some coming back. I always thought if he could have improved his defence ore he would have had even more success.

I was so pleased for him when he beat Brahmer.
He was ok up to a certain level. That fight with Fonfara showed us what we needed to know about Nathan's level.

Best win? Murat?
Didn't the Fonfara fight break some compubox record for punches thrown and landed in a fight? He competed with him. He lost. But he was competitive enough for me to think he was at that level.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:34
by margaret thatcher
wins over bellew, brahmer, and murat are decent. the fonfara fight was very competitive

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47
by margaret thatcher
funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 13:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Doesn’t he have a math degree as well?

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 13:02
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47 funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.
Kovalev wasn’t really known was he? Especially to UK fan base.

Casuals probably thought he was crap and the hardcores must have really rated Clev.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 13:03
by margaret thatcher
could be, though weird that hopkins was favoured over him here too.....kov didnt lose a round in either fight

at what point did ppl finally realize he could actually box a bit?

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 13:09
by forcefraser
Ezzard wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:31
forcefraser wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:20
Ezzard wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:15 I thought he was quality. High volume. I think what held him back was his defence. He wasn't a huge puncher and his big output always meant he would take some coming back. I always thought if he could have improved his defence ore he would have had even more success.

I was so pleased for him when he beat Brahmer.
He was ok up to a certain level. That fight with Fonfara showed us what we needed to know about Nathan's level.

Best win? Murat?
Didn't the Fonfara fight break some compubox record for punches thrown and landed in a fight? He competed with him. He lost. But he was competitive enough for me to think he was at that level.
Fully agree, the Fonfara fight was competitive and Cleverly showed a great chin and a huge set og cajones in the fight.

My point was more that Fonfara was no hall of famer myself.

Bellew was like a skeleton at light heavy and Brahmer retired injured.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 14:17
by Boxerbeetle
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47 funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.
I didn’t post on that thread for some reason, even though I had tickets to the fight. I honestly don’t remember who I backed, but remember I was never as sold on Kov as many people, always thought he looked a bit fragile. Clearly not fragile enough for Clev though :lol:

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 17:05
by The_Don1
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47 funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.
This jogs my memory now, I distinctly recall my boxrec account being hacked around this time and I was glad the lads at boxrec were able to resolve it for me.

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 17:10
by The Gratest
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47 funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.
Thanks for that EO :TU:

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 18:01
by margaret thatcher
:oo

Re: Nathan Cleverly

Posted: 29 Jun 2022, 19:11
by Deserter
The_Don1 wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 17:05
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:47 funny enough looking back, clev was favoured here over kov : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=169898&p=3692464&hilit=

hoppy was also favoured here over kov

and the ward predictions were 70 percent 'ward totally schools him, not close at all'

this forum have a weird thing against kov lol?

etc...
MightyWarrior wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 10:35
I think Clev will show him up on Sat night.
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 04:24 Clev to win wide on points, big overhand rights pinging off Kovalev's head all night.
loaded_gloves wrote: 02 Aug 2013, 10:34 I've been watching Kov over the last few years and think this has Calzaghe/Lacy written all over it.
Datsue wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 10:20 Kovalev isn't the monster many are making him out to be. He's heavy-handed but he's certainly not the Eurasian Julian Jackson. He can box but he steams straight in & smothers his work.

Clev by decision.
palooka wrote: 16 Aug 2013, 08:11 All the talk about how rubbish Cleverlys' opponents have been are quiet about just who Kovalev has beaten to get a title shot, Campillo aside; I think Nathan will keep him turning for 3 rounds then put the work rate on him and run out on points.
The_Don1 wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 11:34 I can see Clev coasting to a wide points decision.
The Insider wrote: 15 Aug 2013, 12:52 Im backing Nathan and I'm quietly confident if he sticks to his plan of using his skill, speed and stamina he can not only win but stop Kovalev mid to late.
This jogs my memory now, I distinctly recall my boxrec account being hacked around this time and I was glad the lads at boxrec were able to resolve it for me.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: