BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Joshua II / Hrgovic vs. Zhang

[Ruthless-RKO]

Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

2. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: 15.10.2022 vs. Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - (#12)

4. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 24.09.2022 vs. Joe Joyce - 14(13) 0 0 - (#8)

5. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 04.09.2022 vs. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 (#9)

7. Joe Joyce - 14(13) 0 0 - next fight: 24.09.2022 vs. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - (#5)

8. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 04.09.2022 vs. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 (#7)

9. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight:TBA

10. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: 15.10.2022 vs. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - (#3)

13. Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. unranked

Questions: How does Oleksandr Usyk's - 19(13) 0 0 win over Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 and Filip Hrgovic's - 15(12) 0 0 controversial win decision over Zhilei Zhang
- 24(19) 1(0) 1 affect the rankings?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Is there any point putting a poll up for Usyk?

Assuming he won rather clear, I can't see anyone moving him down..

[Ruthless-RKO]

In regards to Joshua, I vote he remains for now.

Wilder doesn't deserve to move up yet above AJ.

Joyce, Parker, Ruiz and Ortiz are fighting next month, so it dpends on what they achieve for me..

[joshj909]

Other than Usyks wins over himself, AJ has by far the best set of wins of any other active heavyweight. Anyone dropping him is doing based on their own biases.

Hrgovic to 15. I want to put Zhang in aswell for his efforts but I'm not sure he deserves it over Pulev. He probably does over Wallin though.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Other than Usyks wins over himself, AJ has by far the best set of wins of any other active heavyweight. Anyone dropping him is doing based on their own biases.

Yeh, I can't see him dropping. As you said, it's gotta be a bias move to move him down.

[Finkel]

Joshua stays at 2
Zhang to 15 or leave it empty

He got jobbed on the cards, more than likely for political reasons outside of boxing.
The crowd were booing the result and the referee even started raising his hand. lol

Remember this is a card that gave the nod to Jack over Rivera, which included a 4 minute round!
And that awful Feldman card for Joshua.

They had their finger on the scales throughout.

[gregregegg]

USyk stays 1- Easy call

AJ stays 2 - Better res than wilder.

Hrgov to 15- very tentative grasp, Winner of mak vs takem will ultimently take this spot unless Its a controversial decision too which will then cause confusion.

[DrDuke]

Joshua and Usyk are same obviously.

Hrgovic should enter the top on paper, but after such 'win' it's better to leave a vacant place.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I've changed the poll.

get voting guys

Seen a mixture of answers so far..

some say 15, some want him and Zhang to enter, but no one deserves to drop..

Some say leave 15 empty..

[Controversial]

Dubois not in the rankings?

[CMCanavessi]

Dubois not in the rankings?

Who has he beat besides nobody?

[joshj909]

Dubois not in the rankings?

Who has he beat besides nobody?

Trevor Bryan is his best win they say he did good against Joyce, we might aswell put Bryant Jennings in the top 15 then.

[Controversial]

Dubois not in the rankings?

Who has he beat besides nobody?

Well neither has Zhang and thats the question being asked

[CMCanavessi]

Yeah but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Chisora got his ass whipped by Pulev and got to 9th.

[tiny_acres]

Joshua losing makes me think that the IBF leaving spots in the to 10 vacant is not a bad idea.
But since we can not vote #2 vacant and moving Joshua to 3 then I vote no change on Usyk or Joshua.
Zhang and Hrgovic are neither worthy of a top 15 spot.
Over the next couple of months I expect a big shake up in the ratings

[morm]

Hrgovic to 14, he throws all night long punshes, Zhang was better in 5 rounds the last 40 sekunds
The buhh cam from chinas fans...
Hrgovic won this fight close

[oogiebe]

Hrg did nothing to warrant top 15.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hrg did nothing to warrant top 15.

I agree..

I think most might vote him in, because on paper it's a win and it fills the #15..

[1057230]

zip change. hrg's resume so far is abysmal. barely surviving versus zhang goesn't put him top 15. end of.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I hope ur all voting too.

[CMCanavessi]

I woted for number 15 because I didn't even see the "remain unranked" one (which I would have voted if I wasn't half-asleep), so if you account for that it's now 5-5

[Ruthless-RKO]

I woted for number 15 because I didn't even see the "remain unranked" one (which I would have voted if I wasn't half-asleep), so if you account for that it's now 5-5

It was the one below haha.

You can edit it now.

[CMCanavessi]

Isn't Zhang 24-1-1 btw?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Isn't Zhang 24-1-1 btw?

Yes thank you

[cpx2]

Not putting Hrgovic in based on that performance. Makhmudov-Takam might be the next one worthy of consideration. Possibly Hunter-Fury after that.

If Dubois gets the fight with Whyte which is rumoured, then it could be him next up as well.