Oleksandr Usyk vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

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Who wins?

Poll runs till 27 Sep 2026, 14:57

Usyk - Decision
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Usyk - T/KO
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78%
DRAW
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Wilder - T/KO
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Wilder - Decision
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Total votes: 68

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Oleksandr Usyk vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

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OLEKSANDR USYK WANTS WILDER-HELENIUS WINNER IN 2023

The barking dog in the background was a welcome relief to Oleksandr Usyk from the sirens that had been blaring recently in his hometown of Vorzel, Ukraine.

Usyk, The RING, IBF, WBA, WBO world heavyweight champion, has been watching the recent traffic of the heavyweight division with a grin. Through manager Egis Klimas, three-time BWAA Manager of the Year, Usyk (20-0, 13 knockouts) spoke exclusively with The Ring on Wednesday afternoon about his future, the recently made Tyson Fury-Anthony Joshua fight for the WBC title and who could possibly be his next opponent.

When asked how much his life has changed since beating Joshua a second time on August 20, by split-decision, Usyk said, “I’m happy, I’m at home, but there’s been only one change, I beat Joshua a second time. Everything else is the same.

“I don’t have many feelings about (Fury and Joshua fighting). I don’t really care if Fury wants to fight somebody. My team is working on getting me back in the ring.

“And no, no, I’m not pissed off at all (about being bypassed by Fury for Joshua). The bigger problem is Tyson Fury is not letting fans see one of the best historical bouts in boxing history. That’s his fault. Not mine. So, I’m not pissed off at all. Tyson Fury can fight whoever he wants to fight.

“From the standpoint of sportsmanship, of course it’s not correct (that Fury fight Joshua instead of him).”

When asked who he would like to fight next, Usyk answered in English, “Deontay Wilder.”

Usyk went on to say, “Wilder is a dangerous fighter, and that fight would most likely be in the United States.”

Usyk said he will most likely be ringside when Wilder, the former WBC titlist, takes on Robert Helenius (31-3, 20 KOs) on October 8, at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y.

A Usyk clash with Wilder (42-2-1, 41 KOs) would be a great contrast in styles, between the scientific Ukrainian southpaw with the magical hands opposed to Wilder’s heavy hands.

Usyk is The Ring’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world and was The Ring and BWAA’s 2018 Fighter of the Year. Yet, he eschews accolades. Point him in a direction, wind him up and he’s ready to go to war.

“I have people around me who respect me, and we talk about that, and I really don’t care about anyone else’s opinion,” Usyk said. “I care what my people think. I have my country that I love and it’s why I wanted to come back home (after the Joshua fight). I’m sitting in my backyard right now and the country is at war. You hear sirens. You learn how to survive all of this.

“That’s the most important message. I feel personally how the rest of the world feels about us. If I wasn’t boxing, I would be an actor. I’d be a very good actor.”

Klimas noted that if Joshua beat Fury, there would be a rematch, which would push back any possibility of Fury ever facing Usyk in 2023. Klimas also said Team Usyk will not be “chasing Tyson Fury.” Usyk will return in early 2023 against the Wilder-Helenius winner.

“Usyk is the heavyweight world champion and look how many statements Fury has made these last few months, he’s retiring, he’s not retiring, he’s fighting Usyk, he’s not Usyk, and now he’s fighting Joshua, you really don’t know what Fury is going to do next,” Klimas explained. “If you look in his past at everything that happened, Fury always caused a problem when it came to getting an undisputed world champion. He’s unpredictable.

“What happens when Joshua beats his ass? What will happen next? They will go to a rematch, which will push back the chance to have an undisputed world champion. I think Fury is most likely afraid of Usyk. Why does he run away from Usyk? Why? Because Fury sees danger in Usyk.

“Usyk wanted to fight Fury by the end of the year. You know what, we’re not running after him. We have three belts. He has one belt. Who cares? It’s a situation Fury created. Not Usyk. Usyk would fight Tyson Fury in his backyard. Usyk would fight anyone in their backyard.

“It was very important for Usyk to return to the Ukraine and to his people.”

Usyk plans an October tour of the United States. One stop will be in Brooklyn for the Wilder-Helenius fight. Then, Usyk will be going to Los Angeles for a dinner on October 20 to kick off the Oleksandr Usyk Foundation.

For now, the world heavyweight champion is resting and will be watching Canelo Alvarez battle Gennadiy Golovkin this Saturday (“Somehow I think it’s going to be Canelo Alvarez,” he predicts).

“Usyk would like to fight Wilder, but whoever wins that fight would be next for Usyk,” Klimas said. “Usyk is not like Fury. He’s looking for the winners not looking for the losers.”
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IT would be an interesting fight, as good as Usyk is, and as solid as his chin seems, he definitely would have to be alert the whole fight,

I'd pick Usyk to win, and make Wilder look very amateurish in the process, but it would definitely have a 'what if' feeling.
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Usyk will outclass Wilder in a shotout.
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Punchers make me nervous.... Especially one with Wilder's power. I'd not be touching betting on this.
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“From the standpoint of sportsmanship, of course it’s not correct (that Fury fight Joshua instead of him).”


Since when did the drug cheat Fury ever know anything about sportsmanship?

He's basically a deceptive fraud that's cunningly amassed a huge amount of money via some highly dubious means.

He really ought to turn his hand to promoting.

As for Wilder, he won't ever fight Usyk.
Not whilst there's the likes of Helenius around.

Usyk's been defeated and frozen out by Fury's antics. Fury has no interest in more belts or titles as long as he can hold the WBC strap hostage for at least 12 months.

Hence the rematch clause.

Unfortunately, the Usyk team are mere novices when it comes to the business side of this game.

The same way that Golovkin once was and Bivol still is.

In modern day boxing most of the action takes place outside the ring. That's where the money is made and lost.

The best thing that can happen is if Joshua flattens Fury so bad that the gypsy king thinks twice about any rematch.

That's assuming that Fury will actually fight Joshua.

Fury's probably still agonisingly trying to work out the risk/reward calculation of facing Joshua ahead of Usyk now that team Joshua have very publicly called his bluff.

Of course if he'd have been rightfully stripped of his WBC belt for not defending then we wouldn't have this problem.

Thank you once again Mauricio!

Sulaiman is yet another fraud for not insisting that Fury either faces his mandatory, or fights Usyk. He could and he should.

If only that pot of money wasn't so blinding.

As for Fury, the choice is clear, face Joshua or Usyk.
Or give up the belt by retiring for real.

If it's Joshua next, and he's so certain of winning, then there should be no rematch clause and Usyk next.
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I prefer novel match-ups over rematches. I would be happy to see Fury - Joshua and Usyk - Wilder. We also need Usyk - Fury and Joshua - Wilder. I would gladly trade-in Usyk - Joshua 2 and Fury - Wilder 3 in order to get some of these new match-ups. Just like, I wish we had gotten, in their primes, all combinations of Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and Bowe.
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Fury never wanted to fight Usyk in the first place, that is obvious.

Usyk out-boxes Wilder, but is hittable, and Wilder wouldn't be punching up like he was with Fury. Anyway, I think Wilder KOs him, in-between all of the outboxing.
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Bandog wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 20:27 Fury never wanted to fight Usyk in the first place, that is obvious.

Usyk out-boxes Wilder, but is hittable, and Wilder wouldn't be punching up like he was with Fury. Anyway, I think Wilder KOs him, in-between all of the outboxing.
is there someone you wouldnt pick wilder to beat - i know you picked him to ko fury 3 times too :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 21:49
Bandog wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 20:27 Fury never wanted to fight Usyk in the first place, that is obvious.

Usyk out-boxes Wilder, but is hittable, and Wilder wouldn't be punching up like he was with Fury. Anyway, I think Wilder KOs him, in-between all of the outboxing.
is there someone you wouldnt pick wilder to beat - i know you picked him to ko fury 3 times too :lol:
Yes. He was about 3-4 seconds away from Wilder KOing Fury twice. The 1st especially. But anyway, I'm at peace with that.

KO of Usyk? 50-50.
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Bandog wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 19:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 21:49
Bandog wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 20:27 Fury never wanted to fight Usyk in the first place, that is obvious.

Usyk out-boxes Wilder, but is hittable, and Wilder wouldn't be punching up like he was with Fury. Anyway, I think Wilder KOs him, in-between all of the outboxing.
is there someone you wouldnt pick wilder to beat - i know you picked him to ko fury 3 times too :lol:
Yes. He was about 3-4 seconds away from Wilder KOing Fury twice. The 1st especially. But anyway, I'm at peace with that.

KO of Usyk? 50-50.
he didnt ko him any time :lol:

but anyway, you picked wilder to ko fury 3 times and to ko usyk. looking at the other guys, is there anyone you dont think wilder beats?
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I'm surprised at the votes for Uysk decision.
Wilder is not some defensive genius :lol:
He is going to get hit, a lot.
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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 21:33 I'm surprised at the votes for Uysk decision.
Wilder is not some defensive genius :lol:
He is going to get hit, a lot.
And Usyk isn't a risk taker. He can methodically slap Wilder all night long.
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I think that people have this all wrong. Wilder would ko Usyk just like he would have koed his buddy AJ.
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Hearn: I Don't See Oleksandr Usyk Losing a Round To Deontay Wilder

“I think [Usyk-Wilder] a good fight, I think obviously the Saudis will want the undisputed fight [between Fury and Usyk] but that couldn’t happen for a while now if we make the Fury-AJ fight, so we’ll have to see. I don’t see Usyk losing a round to Deontay Wilder but at the same time Wilder carries the power to cause problems for anyone," Hearn told ID Boxing.
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Andre Ward Reacts To Hearn Saying Usyk Won’t Lose A Round To Wilder



Andre Ward disagrees with promoter Eddie Hearn’s recent comment that the ‘Bronze Bomber’ Deontay Wilder wouldn’t lose a round against IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk.

“Yeah, right. That right hand is going to land at some point. Rounds will be won by Wilder,” said Andre Ward on Twitter in reacting to a comment from Eddie Hearn to Boxing Scene about Oleksandr Usyk not losing a round to Deontay Wilder if they fought.

It’s understandable why Hearn would make light of Wilder’s chances against Usyk because he just beat the British promoter’s flagship fighter Anthony Joshua twice in a row.

That’s Hearn’s #1 money-maker in his Matchroom Boxing stable, and it was obviously a crushing blow to have AJ’s ship scuttled by Usyk.
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Bandog wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 19:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 21:49
Bandog wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 20:27 Fury never wanted to fight Usyk in the first place, that is obvious.

Usyk out-boxes Wilder, but is hittable, and Wilder wouldn't be punching up like he was with Fury. Anyway, I think Wilder KOs him, in-between all of the outboxing.
is there someone you wouldnt pick wilder to beat - i know you picked him to ko fury 3 times too :lol:
Yes. He was about 3-4 seconds away from Wilder KOing Fury twice. The 1st especially. But anyway, I'm at peace with that.

KO of Usyk? 50-50.
I was within 30 second of chatting up Naomi campbell - that didn't happen either.
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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 21:33 I'm surprised at the votes for Uysk decision.
Wilder is not some defensive genius :lol:
He is going to get hit, a lot.
I don't see Usyk taking many risks at all, he will just make Wilder miss and counter.
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Usyk is probably one of, if not, the most smartest boxer currently active.
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Lmao

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ward is so butthurt by usyk for some reason, he even picked bellew to beat him

btw eddeh really triggers ppl doesnt he :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 14:29 ward is so butthurt by usyk for some reason, he even picked bellew to beat him

btw eddeh really triggers ppl doesnt he :lol:
I don’t know any American’s that like Hearn.
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maybe yanks are too insecure :OhYes:
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I don't know what those tweets are talking about. One of the two is a master boxer and the other is far from it. If Wilder never landed a knockout blow, it's actually pretty likely that he wouldn't win a round.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 11:04
Bandog wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 19:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Sep 2022, 21:49

is there someone you wouldnt pick wilder to beat - i know you picked him to ko fury 3 times too :lol:
Yes. He was about 3-4 seconds away from Wilder KOing Fury twice. The 1st especially. But anyway, I'm at peace with that.

KO of Usyk? 50-50.
I was within 30 second of chatting up Naomi campbell - that didn't happen either.
Aww mate, you coulda had her. :verysad:
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"Hey, you're supposed to win, wake up! I'll count slow. Let me get the smelling salts!" :OhYes:
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