Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Look at his career, he was tracked to the top by KOing cans. The only real contender he faced was Takam and it was a hard fight for him. Then he was lucky to be chosen to face Ruiz for the vacant belt. These two clearly weren't real challengers at that point. He laboured to win Ruiz and then every higher level bout was laboursome for him. Against Hughie, Chisora and even Fa. Yet those weren't the top fighters. Only Chisora is a gatekeeper. He lost clearly to Joshua and Whyte, while there was no huge controvercy against Whyte, leave that headclash alone, cause the real fighter will keep doing his job after such stuff. Now Joyce totally overwhelmed Parker. Yes, Parker has some decent basic skills, but those always aren't enough against every legit top competitor.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Wouldn’t say he overachieved.
Let’s bring this question up in a few years.
He’s only 30..
Let’s bring this question up in a few years.
He’s only 30..
Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Well, it will be possible to reconsider it anyway. Up to the date he seems quite overachieved.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 05:48 Wouldn’t say he overachieved.
Let’s bring this question up in a few years.
He’s only 30..
People was saying the stuff like "he's only 26" after losing to Joshua and Whyte. No improvement since then.
Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
He seems to be well managed. Never far from the limelight.
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gregregegg
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Parkers just a solid fighter. i guess you could say him being a world champ is over achieving, because he was never the best heavyweight in the world... But he has spent 6+ years in the top 10 (acording to ring magazine) probably half of that in the top 5... so in the 4 belt era snagging a belt is hardly a suprise.
some people find parker a bit boring, and i get it at times his stamina dosent look the best so he can be a frustrating watch. but he fights anyone, has a crack and tries to win. ISnt a sook either. shit ref vs AJ, Shocking head clash vs whyte, hardly a mention from him ever. Need more like him..
parker needs a couple of confidence builders to bury this loss. but when the dust settles in a couple of years, I expect parker to be in another world title fight (whether he can win or not... guess it depends who he is vsing).
some people find parker a bit boring, and i get it at times his stamina dosent look the best so he can be a frustrating watch. but he fights anyone, has a crack and tries to win. ISnt a sook either. shit ref vs AJ, Shocking head clash vs whyte, hardly a mention from him ever. Need more like him..
parker needs a couple of confidence builders to bury this loss. but when the dust settles in a couple of years, I expect parker to be in another world title fight (whether he can win or not... guess it depends who he is vsing).
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splashitallover
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Parker clearly has ability but time and time again he fails to let his hands go, maybe due to a lack of confidence. There is plenty of dog in him but early doors vs Joyce I was expecting him to pepper the slower Joyce with 3-4 punch combinations but it never happened. Punches win fights but Parker fails to throw when he clearly has talent and speed.
Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Exactly, compare him to other 30 year olds. The only active ones that have achieved more than him by that age are Fury and AJ. Other guys that age are usually undefeated, usually because they haven't faced anyone of note. If Parker avoided the tough tests against AJ, Whyte and Joyce, he could be WBO champ with wins over Takam, Ruiz, Chisora X2 and Hughie. I know it's not as simple as that but I'd take 100 "underachieving" Parkers in the division over the other 30 year olds who refuse to test themselves.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 05:48 Wouldn’t say he overachieved.
Let’s bring this question up in a few years.
He’s only 30..
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
I would say he lacked the stones to go for it in key fights. He wasn't that good anyway.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 05:48 Wouldn’t say he overachieved.
Let’s bring this question up in a few years.
He’s only 30..
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Thomastearns
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Let's not forget that Parker was only seconds away from the win against the totally gassed out Dillian Whyte in the 12th.
What is clear though is that breaking up with his trainer Kevin Barry last year has certainly not done his career much good.
And as for the deluded Andy Lee/Fury's connection, the less said the better.
In fact it's led to his most devastating loss.
What is clear though is that breaking up with his trainer Kevin Barry last year has certainly not done his career much good.
And as for the deluded Andy Lee/Fury's connection, the less said the better.
In fact it's led to his most devastating loss.
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
He never really got better. You could see the talent and potential but he never improved
Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
He's just an example of a decent fighter in a weak era. Tough tough guy. So not an overachiever.
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
He didn't clearly lose to Whyte; that was a tough and gruelling fight for both men and had the fight been about 30 seconds longer, Whyte would have probably been KOd through sheer exhaustion.
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
100%..Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Sep 2022, 15:25 He didn't clearly lose to Whyte; that was a tough and gruelling fight for both men and had the fight been about 30 seconds longer, Whyte would have probably been KOd through sheer exhaustion.
Was close on the cards.
One knockdown was the elbow to the head or something.
It counted as 10-8 Whyte round. Had that not happened. I believe it was Parker’s round 10-9.
The 2nd KD was fair.
But the head clash happened so early, we don’t know what that might have done to him down the stretch.
Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
Underachiever imo. He moves well, great athleticism, solid punching power, but comes in overweight at times and likely doesn't train that hard given his stamina issues.
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Re: Is Joseph Parker an overachiever?
He's pretty much done all he could.
I tend to be kinder to Parker, he's had a decent career and hopefully made some money?
His career is split in two, the first half he was a great young prospect with lots of power, some big ko's , grabbed the WBO bauble, and really from the Ruiz fight onwards is the second half of his career where it's fair to say he's become by far one of the most durable fighters in the world at this level.
He's definitely one of the nice guys in the sport and can carry on a bit longer...but I wouldn't
I tend to be kinder to Parker, he's had a decent career and hopefully made some money?
His career is split in two, the first half he was a great young prospect with lots of power, some big ko's , grabbed the WBO bauble, and really from the Ruiz fight onwards is the second half of his career where it's fair to say he's become by far one of the most durable fighters in the world at this level.
He's definitely one of the nice guys in the sport and can carry on a bit longer...but I wouldn't