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Which lineal heavyweight champions do you think he would beat?

Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, Jefferies, Hart, Burns, Willard, Dempsey, Schemling, Sharkey, Carnera, Braddock, Johansson, Spinks(Leon), Muhammad Ali(3), Rahman.

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Hart, Burns, Carnera... Those are his best and only chances.

beats a lot of the earliest champs

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:29 Hart, Burns, Carnera... Those are his best and only chances.

no chance against soaking weight 165 pound bob fitz? willard? neon leon? rahman?

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 12:30 Dempsey,

Is nothing sacred, brother? If you put Jones in a time machine back to the 1919, with no PEDs, a simple diet, the hot sun and Dempey with his killer instinct, I don't think Roy could cope.

are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

Beats Dempsey.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

Beats Dempsey.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:33

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:29 Hart, Burns, Carnera... Those are his best and only chances.

no chance against soaking weight 165 pound bob fitz? willard? neon leon? rahman?

Without the juice Fitz sparks him. Maybe even with the juice. Don't see Jones going 45 rounds with Willard. Rahman needs just one right hand.,

Dempsey is way too much for him.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

He would beat the majority of fighters up to the Dempsey times. Jack would have a too good delivery of his huge power, so it's a bad matchup for Roy.

Then he could deal with the mix of champs between Tunney and Louis. Although Baer would also have a solid puncher's chance.

In the later times he would beat Leon Spinks and Shannon Briggs, maybe also Michael Spinks and George Foreman of the 90s (if not got caught).

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

Beats Dempsey.

What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

Beats Dempsey.

What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.

Mike Tyson.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11

The Jones that fought Ruiz.

Beats Dempsey.

What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.

Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22

Beats Dempsey.

What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.

Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.

He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28

What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.

Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.

He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.

Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.

If Dempsey's left hook missed Jones the breeze from the shot would drop Roy.

Ezzard wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:13 If Dempsey's left hook missed Jones the breeze from the shot would drop Roy.

No it woudn't.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27
Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.

He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.

Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.

You have to be kidding.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 12:15

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54

He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.

Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.

You have to be kidding.

No.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27
Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.

He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.

Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.

Ha'way man Teddy. Tunney was the consummate boxer.