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Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 01 Dec 2022, 11:50
by nobleart1978
Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 01 Dec 2022, 12:01
by smiling assassin
Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 01 Dec 2022, 19:08
by GreenLightning
smiling assassin wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:01
Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
Used to be just the local hoods and gangsters depending on the fight but now it's the supercartels and rogue terrorist states gaining control
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 01 Dec 2022, 20:10
by bripez
smiling assassin wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:01
Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
Wfet about the hundreds if not thousands of kids adversely affected by their actions?
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 07:52
by Deserter
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 11:50
Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
Have you read 'Legacy: Gangsters, Corruption and the London Olympics'? Pretty eye-opening as well.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 08:31
by Counter-puncher
Deserter wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 07:52
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 11:50
Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
Have you read 'Legacy: Gangsters, Corruption and the London Olympics'? Pretty eye-opening as well.
i read it a couple of years back and felt like killing myself after
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 09:42
by high tower 1
What did Tony burns get up to ?
Read that book. Very interesting.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 10:09
by high tower 1
Different Tony sims. Says born in the 60s on that doc.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 13:48
by jonp
high tower 1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 10:09
Different Tony sims. Says born in the 60s on that doc.
Tony was born in the 60s?
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 13:49
by margaret thatcher
ya but tony is upstanding and would never have been a naughty boy
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 17:36
by a force
Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 03 Dec 2022, 09:33
by high tower 1
jonp wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 13:48
high tower 1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 10:09
Different Tony sims. Says born in the 60s on that doc.
Tony was born in the 60s?
I meant Tony burns. The report says he’s born in the 60s so deffo not the Repton trainer.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 03 Dec 2022, 15:09
by Spud
a force wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 17:36
Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 03 Dec 2022, 16:12
by 614816
Spud wrote: ↑03 Dec 2022, 15:09
a force wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 17:36
Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
Its good that you share your opinion, not everyone agrees, same as me,
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 03 Dec 2022, 16:32
by Spud
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 09:07
by Deserter
Spud wrote: ↑03 Dec 2022, 15:09
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
must be missing something as haven't seen anyone who has tried to dictate to you on this?
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 09:23
by JamesPhilips
Spud wrote: ↑03 Dec 2022, 15:09
a force wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 17:36
Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
Do you believe David Haye ever did PEDs or not?
Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 10:20
by Stevieaber
a force wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 17:36
Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
I was aware that the Bowers had a bit of “a past” but didn’t know about Sims. Wouldn’t have him down as an ammonia thrower. Does make you wonder why the board issued him with a licence