BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena

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Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected after Tyson Fury stopped Derek Chisora and does Daniel Dubois finally enter our rankings after he stopped Kevin Lerena in a strange fight?

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We vote on Chisora and Dubois.

If anyone wants Fury dropped to #2 then comment.

There are 2 votes. Please use one for Chisora and one for Dubois.

If you make an error, let me know.

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Also the fact that non of these have a fight scheduled.

It’s disgusting.

We do have some outside the top 15 with fights scheduled over the next few weeks.

[joshj909]

Fury to #2

[oogiebe]

Out
Out

[tiny_acres]

I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over

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I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over

His win over Pulev helped apparently.

And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’

That was the general consensus

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Out
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Fury to remain ?

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Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?

[oogiebe]

Out
Out

Fury to remain ?

Yeah, no reason to drop him a spot.

[DrDuke]

Chisora to 13, cause he's still a decent gatekeeper and defeated Pulev, but I won't pick him over the row of fighters, who are between him and Pulev now.

Dub to 15, because Lerena and Zhang are about the same mediocre, while Hrgovic lost to Zhang on my card, so I can't see him in top 15.

[joshj909]

Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?

I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.

To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.

[gregregegg]

I only voted on chisora and now i cant change it.... But if you read this I would like DDD to 14.

[KiwiRider]

Just caught up on the DDD fight.
I thought he lost it in the first round. An early bell and the ref not following the sanctioning guidelines of three KD's in one round. No way does he belong on our list.
As for Chisora, that was abysmal, a performance that doesn't even deserve UK gatekeeper status. I guess he hangs in there on past wins, but seriously needs to retire.

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I only voted on chisora and now i cant change it.... But if you read this I would like DDD to 14.

You can add it now.

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Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?

I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.

To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.

Honestly, I couldn’t agree more with this.

No one is fighting anyone meaningful to even make waves.

What’s Efe vs. Rivas gonna tell us?

I mean Rivas used to be on our list. Not the worst fight.

Kabayel is fight TBA in Jan. probably be a random of the street.

Mak is fighting soon, that might be ok.

Seriously, Hrgovic, Pulev, Wallin and Bakole should Al have fights scheduled.

I’ll let Pulev off as he’s older and had his shots.

Hrg is just sitting on a ranking. Wallin is begging anyone and Bakole is silent.

[joshj909]

Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?

I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.

To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.

Honestly, I couldn’t agree more with this.

No one is fighting anyone meaningful to even make waves.

What’s Efe vs. Rivas gonna tell us?

I mean Rivas used to be on our list. Not the worst fight.

Kabayel is fight TBA in Jan. probably be a random of the street.

Mak is fighting soon, that might be ok.

Seriously, Hrgovic, Pulev, Wallin and Bakole should Al have fights scheduled.

I’ll let Pulev off as he’s older and had his shots.

Hrg is just sitting on a ranking. Wallin is begging anyone and Bakole is silent.

If Efe wins it probably gets him to the edge of the top 15 but it would help Sanchez's stock more than anything. If Rivas wins you'd have to think he's around Sanchez at 12.

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I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over

His win over Pulev helped apparently.

And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’

That was the general consensus

My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while

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I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over

His win over Pulev helped apparently.

And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’

That was the general consensus

My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while

Ah. It was Josh. He explained above.

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His win over Pulev helped apparently.

And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’

That was the general consensus

My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while

Ah. It was Josh. He explained above.

Thanks just read it though I do not agree with him.
I just think that even though you put in good efforts you have to win some.

[HomicideHenry]

Chisora, out.

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Chisora, out.

And Dubois?

Does he enter?

[HomicideHenry]

Chisora, out.

And Dubois?

Does he enter?

Yeah. At #15.

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Make sure you've voted on both.

Some uneven numbers here.

You can go in an edit your picks.

[Finkel]

Dubois remains out. Very suspicious looking fight that which is hard to take any positives from.

Sorry, RKO, can't vote on Fury v Chisora as I have zero intention of ever watching it. I've seen 1 and 2, don't need to watch 3.