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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 10:10
by Ruthless-RKO
Current ranking:
Tyson Fury -
33(24) 0 1 - next fight:
TBA
2.
Oleksandr Usyk -
20(13) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
3.
Anthony Joshua -
24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
4.
Deontay Wilder -
43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight:
TBA
5.
Joe Joyce -
15(14) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
6.
Andy Ruiz Jr -
35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight:
TBA
7.
Joseph Parker -
30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
8.
Dillian Whyte -
29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight:
TBA
9.
Dereck Chisora -
33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight:
TBA
10.
Martin Bakole -
18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
11.
Luis Ortiz -
33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
12.
Frank Sanchez -
21(14) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
13.
Otto Wallin -
24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight:
TBA
14.
Kubrat Pulev -
29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
15.
Filip Hrgovic -
15(12) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
Question: How are the rankings affected after
Tyson Fury stopped
Derek Chisora and does
Daniel Dubois finally enter our rankings after he stopped
Kevin Lerena in a strange fight?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 10:11
by Ruthless-RKO
We vote on Chisora and Dubois.
If anyone wants Fury dropped to #2 then comment.
There are 2 votes. Please use one for Chisora and one for Dubois.
If you make an error, let me know.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 10:12
by Ruthless-RKO
Also the fact that non of these have a fight scheduled.
It’s disgusting.
We do have some outside the top 15 with fights scheduled over the next few weeks.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 11:29
by joshj909
Fury to #2
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 11:31
by oogiebe
Out
Out
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 11:38
by tiny_acres
I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 12:36
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:38
I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over
His win over Pulev helped apparently.
And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’
That was the general consensus
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 12:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 12:37
by Ruthless-RKO
Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 12:41
by oogiebe
Yeah, no reason to drop him a spot.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 13:39
by DrDuke
Chisora to 13, cause he's still a decent gatekeeper and defeated Pulev, but I won't pick him over the row of fighters, who are between him and Pulev now.
Dub to 15, because Lerena and Zhang are about the same mediocre, while Hrgovic lost to Zhang on my card, so I can't see him in top 15.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 14:33
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:37
Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?
I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.
To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 14:47
by gregregegg
I only voted on chisora and now i cant change it.... But if you read this I would like DDD to 14.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 14:50
by KiwiRider
Just caught up on the DDD fight.
I thought he lost it in the first round. An early bell and the ref not following the sanctioning guidelines of three KD's in one round. No way does he belong on our list.
As for Chisora, that was abysmal, a performance that doesn't even deserve UK gatekeeper status. I guess he hangs in there on past wins, but seriously needs to retire.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 15:04
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 14:47
I only voted on chisora and now i cant change it.... But if you read this I would like DDD to 14.
You can add it now.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 15:08
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 14:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:37
Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?
I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.
To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.
Honestly, I couldn’t agree more with this.
No one is fighting anyone meaningful to even make waves.
What’s Efe vs. Rivas gonna tell us?
I mean Rivas used to be on our list. Not the worst fight.
Kabayel is fight TBA in Jan. probably be a random of the street.
Mak is fighting soon, that might be ok.
Seriously, Hrgovic, Pulev, Wallin and Bakole should Al have fights scheduled.
I’ll let Pulev off as he’s older and had his shots.
Hrg is just sitting on a ranking. Wallin is begging anyone and Bakole is silent.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 15:20
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 15:08
joshj909 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 14:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:37
Who’s voted that Chisora remains at 9?
I did. A win over Pulev is a more proven win than Bakole's best win in Yoka, Ortiz's best win in Martin and the guys below them. He was voted to remain at 9 when he beat Pulev, nobody has been voted to overtake him since and losing to the consensus top 2 guy shouldn't drop anyone from #9 to any lower.
To be clear, I think Chisora is shot and loses to a lot of guys outside the top 10 but they've not gone out there and proven it, they just cherry-pick awful opponents and hope for a title shot by flaunting their undefeated record.
Honestly, I couldn’t agree more with this.
No one is fighting anyone meaningful to even make waves.
What’s Efe vs. Rivas gonna tell us?
I mean Rivas used to be on our list. Not the worst fight.
Kabayel is fight TBA in Jan. probably be a random of the street.
Mak is fighting soon, that might be ok.
Seriously, Hrgovic, Pulev, Wallin and Bakole should Al have fights scheduled.
I’ll let Pulev off as he’s older and had his shots.
Hrg is just sitting on a ranking. Wallin is begging anyone and Bakole is silent.
If Efe wins it probably gets him to the edge of the top 15 but it would help Sanchez's stock more than anything. If Rivas wins you'd have to think he's around Sanchez at 12.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 16:51
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:36
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:38
I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over
His win over Pulev helped apparently.
And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’
That was the general consensus
My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 17:05
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 16:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:36
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:38
I would like to know who and why someone has Chisora at #9?
That is insane. His career is long over
His win over Pulev helped apparently.
And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’
That was the general consensus
My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while
Ah. It was Josh. He explained above.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 04 Dec 2022, 17:18
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 17:05
tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 16:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 12:36
His win over Pulev helped apparently.
And his losses to Parker weren’t ‘that bad’
That was the general consensus
My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while
Ah. It was Josh. He explained above.
Thanks just read it though I do not agree with him.
I just think that even though you put in good efforts you have to win some.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 05 Dec 2022, 02:51
by HomicideHenry
Chisora, out.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 05 Dec 2022, 04:20
by Ruthless-RKO
And Dubois?
Does he enter?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 05 Dec 2022, 04:53
by HomicideHenry
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 05 Dec 2022, 09:04
by Ruthless-RKO
Make sure you've voted on both.
Some uneven numbers here.
You can go in an edit your picks.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena
Posted: 05 Dec 2022, 11:19
by Finkel
Dubois remains out. Very suspicious looking fight that which is hard to take any positives from.
Sorry, RKO, can't vote on Fury v Chisora as I have zero intention of ever watching it. I've seen 1 and 2, don't need to watch 3.
