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What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 14 Jan 2023, 03:42
by Evander
Usyk has a good jab.
Decent ring movement.
Fury will have a minimum of 60 pounds on him.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 16:43
by AngryGoon38
Evander wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023, 03:42
Usyk has a good jab.
Decent ring movement.
Fury will have a minimum of 60 pounds on him.
Counter punching
Timing and Rhythm
Instincts
Toughness and Tenacity
Patience and Composure under pressure
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 17:42
by Steveh583
AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 16:43
Evander wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023, 03:42
Usyk has a good jab.
Decent ring movement.
Fury will have a minimum of 60 pounds on him.
Counter punching
Timing and Rhythm
Instincts
Toughness and Tenacity
Patience and Composure under pressure
I think fury matches him with the last three
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 17:51
by Baby Face Finster
Wrong forum. Get this shit out of here.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 17:56
by Ricky
Boxing is for gullible fools.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 19:30
by conan_the_cribber
Evander wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023, 03:42
Usyk has a good jab.
Decent ring movement.
Fury will have a minimum of 60 pounds on him.
Q: What super skills does USYK have that will help him overcome Fury?
A: None.
End of thread.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 19:34
by KiwiRider
Ricky wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 17:56
Boxing is for gullible fools.
Oi!
I resemble that
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 14:55
by gilgamesh
How many threads do we need on this? We've talked about it all we really need to. Now we just gotta see it. Usyk has the skills or he don't, but ain't nothing we SAY gonna make a damn bit of difference in the reality of it.
The fight will answer these questions.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 15:16
by greg
Let me re-phrase the question: What superskills does Fury have to overcome Usyk?
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 15:47
by Ezzard
He's a great operator and his style will hurt Tyson.
Fury is always the most fluid man in the ring when he fights but this time he won't be. He will have to go looking for Usyk and that's not what he's used to.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 15:50
by Coco
I think Tyson's size advantage,and knowing how to use it will be crucial
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 19:41
by bripez
Coco wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 15:50
I think Tyson's size advantage,and knowing how to use it will be crucial
He knows how to use his size advantage and is happy to lean on, hold, push his opponent down etc. all night - he doesn't care if its a shit fight as long as he wins.
A major factor is Usyk's mental strength, determination and fortitude.
Most opponents can't work Fury out and can't cope with his antics.
Usyk is one of the few people who Fury can't work out - if Fury dresses up as batman again and does a song and dance, then Usyk will dress up as spiderman and sing and dance along with him.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 09:23
by Roars Like Me
Isn't their a point when you are just too big? These examples will get shot down but hear me out as size absolutely helped: Brook/GGG - Khan/Canelo. The latter are better fighters for sure but if there was nothing in it, size would have prevailed alone.
Am sure there are far better examples than above, of fighters jumping 2 divisions and it going horribly wrong for them.
In terms of Fury/Usyk, there isn't much in it for me so size will be the factor.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 11:18
by joshj909
bripez wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 19:41
Coco wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 15:50
I think Tyson's size advantage,and knowing how to use it will be crucial
He knows how to use his size advantage and is happy to lean on, hold, push his opponent down etc. all night - he doesn't care if its a shit fight as long as he wins.
A major factor is Usyk's mental strength, determination and fortitude.
Most opponents can't work Fury out and can't cope with his antics.
Usyk is one of the few people who Fury can't work out - if Fury dresses up as batman again and does a song and dance, then Usyk will dress up as spiderman and sing and dance along with him.
Usyk's weirdness comes off much more natural than Fury's.
Usyk's mental strength is also evident when he doesn't fold when he's losing rounds. Usually when boxers are getting punched around and lose the first few rounds you see them start to look a bit lost but Usyk turns up the dials and starts moving his feet and increases his output.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 12:26
by Steveh583
Fury’s too big, plus too long. Usyk will have his moments, but will wilt under the weight of fury up close. AJ would have stood a chance if he knew how to use his size like fury does.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 12:43
by joshj909
Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 12:26
Fury’s too big, plus too long. Usyk will have his moments, but will wilt under the weight of fury up close. AJ would have stood a chance if he knew how to use his size like fury does.
I think Whyte uses his size and strength better than AJ which would give him that bit of a chance against Usyk. He showed absolutely none of it against Fury though.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 12:44
by orbtastic
He can punch through cinder blocks with his bare hands
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 13:19
by big lennox
In theory, Fury will be too big, and that may well prove to be the case, but I would not be surprised if Uysk were to KO him. Smith vs Eubank Jr is a good reminder that anything can happen in a boxing ring.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 13:29
by tonyevs
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
What will be the deciding factor if Usyk can carry that to get the win will be decided by who the referee is and what he allows Fury to get away with.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 14:34
by bripez
joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 11:18
bripez wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 19:41
Coco wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 15:50
I think Tyson's size advantage,and knowing how to use it will be crucial
He knows how to use his size advantage and is happy to lean on, hold, push his opponent down etc. all night - he doesn't care if its a shit fight as long as he wins.
A major factor is Usyk's mental strength, determination and fortitude.
Most opponents can't work Fury out and can't cope with his antics.
Usyk is one of the few people who Fury can't work out - if Fury dresses up as batman again and does a song and dance, then Usyk will dress up as spiderman and sing and dance along with him.
Usyk's weirdness comes off much more natural than Fury's.
Usyk's mental strength is also evident when he doesn't fold when he's losing rounds. Usually when boxers are getting punched around and lose the first few rounds you see them start to look a bit lost but Usyk turns up the dials and starts moving his feet and increases his output.
That's what I mean - he isn't putting it on so Fury can't knock him off kilter before the fight.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:01
by Steveh583
tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:29
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
never been anything wrong with furys engine
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 18:35
by knockout
Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:01
tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:29
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
never been anything wrong with furys engine
True but he has generally been in with other low output heavy’s so never had to move through the gears really.
Not many heavyweights these days with high output / pressure. Can only really think of Joyce and Usyk who can put lots of shots together consistently.
I rewatched Tua / Ibeabuchi recently .. damn that was a crazy fight. Two big men throwing so many punches.
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 19:18
by big lennox
knockout wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 18:35
Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:01
tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:29
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
never been anything wrong with furys engine
True but he has generally been in with other low output heavy’s so never had to move through the gears really.
Not many heavyweights these days with high output / pressure. Can only really think of Joyce and Usyk who can put lots of shots together consistently.
I rewatched Tua / Ibeabuchi recently .. damn that was a crazy fight. Two big men throwing so many punches.
And hard punches, too; they both had cast iron chins!
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 19:28
by Steveh583
knockout wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 18:35
Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:01
tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:29
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
never been anything wrong with furys engine
True but he has generally been in with other low output heavy’s so never had to move through the gears really.
Not many heavyweights these days with high output / pressure. Can only really think of Joyce and Usyk who can put lots of shots together consistently.
I rewatched Tua / Ibeabuchi recently .. damn that was a crazy fight. Two big men throwing so many punches.
Incredible, I’m gonna watch that myself
Re: What superskills does Usyk have to overcome Fury ?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 20:03
by Teddy's Toupee
Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:01
tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:29
Not sure their 'superskills' but his movement and basic boxing skills will be enough to give Fury fits.
I feel just making Fury work harder than his usual plodding pace will reap benefits for Usyk.
never been anything wrong with furys engine
When he's been on the nandrolone.