Bad times for boxing with these money grab-weak boxing matches

[apollo creed]

I mean the boxing fans are wishing so badly to see some good interesting matches but usually they get some stay safe-protect the 0-keep that belt hostage-cherrypicking type of fights promoted like are some good fights.

I pity the people who are spending their hard earned money to sponsor these poor boxing matches.

[Perseus]

You're not excited about the Broner vs Lundy fight?????

No zero being protected in that fight.

I guess there is no making some people happy

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

I used to watch every tv fight. All of them

Last year i watched 3 fights.

Its awful
Rating have to be abysmal
Boxing deserves it. Its a horrible business that craps on customers every chance it gets.

[Mexi-Box]

I agree. My interest is at the lowest. The only fight I'm interested in watching is Garcia/Tank and Loamchenko/Haney. It's amazing that nothing in the current landscape makes me want to watch. I remember getting butterflies when Kovalev/Ward was announced and forums going crazy when Garcia/Matthysse was happening. Boxing has to be at it's lowest point ever.

Just such a huge lack of stars. It's even harder now since fighters have abysmal fighting schedules. It's like we're wishing they now fight 2 times a year! Amazing how the landscape has changed.

[apollo creed]

You're not excited about the Broner vs Lundy fight?????

No zero being protected in that fight.

I guess there is no making some people happy

[apollo creed]

I used to watch every tv fight. All of them

Last year i watched 3 fights.

Its awful
Rating have to be abysmal
Boxing deserves it. Its a horrible business that craps on customers every chance it gets.

crappy money grab fights

[apollo creed]

I agree. My interest is at the lowest. The only fight I'm interested in watching is Garcia/Tank and Loamchenko/Haney. It's amazing that nothing in the current landscape makes me want to watch. I remember getting butterflies when Kovalev/Ward was announced and forums going crazy when Garcia/Matthysse was happening. Boxing has to be at it's lowest point ever.

Just such a huge lack of stars. It's even harder now since fighters have abysmal fighting schedules. It's like we're wishing they now fight 2 times a year! Amazing how the landscape has changed.

Those fights were top notch. It was a bold statement from Ward to fight a prime bigger top notch fighter like Kovalev. Same for Garcia.

[Bandog]

I agree. My interest is at the lowest. The only fight I'm interested in watching is Garcia/Tank and Loamchenko/Haney. It's amazing that nothing in the current landscape makes me want to watch. I remember getting butterflies when Kovalev/Ward was announced and forums going crazy when Garcia/Matthysse was happening. Boxing has to be at it's lowest point ever.

Just such a huge lack of stars. It's even harder now since fighters have abysmal fighting schedules. It's like we're wishing they now fight 2 times a year! Amazing how the landscape has changed.

Those fights were top notch. It was a bold statement from Ward to fight a prime bigger top notch fighter like Kovalev. Same for Garcia.

Sad that Ward was disliked by so many. People said he wouldn't dare to do a rematch either. Hehe

[apollo creed]

I agree. My interest is at the lowest. The only fight I'm interested in watching is Garcia/Tank and Loamchenko/Haney. It's amazing that nothing in the current landscape makes me want to watch. I remember getting butterflies when Kovalev/Ward was announced and forums going crazy when Garcia/Matthysse was happening. Boxing has to be at it's lowest point ever.

Just such a huge lack of stars. It's even harder now since fighters have abysmal fighting schedules. It's like we're wishing they now fight 2 times a year! Amazing how the landscape has changed.

Those fights were top notch. It was a bold statement from Ward to fight a prime bigger top notch fighter like Kovalev. Same for Garcia.

Sad that Ward was disliked by so many. People said he wouldn't dare to do a rematch either. Hehe

Indeed, Ward had big cojones and stellar skills. At that time Kovalev was so dangerous. Of course that their first fight was close and debatable like FMJ vs Castillo 1 / Maidana 1 were too but hey Ward was coming up in weight after a long layoff.

[gilgamesh]

I agree. My interest is at the lowest. The only fight I'm interested in watching is Garcia/Tank and Loamchenko/Haney. It's amazing that nothing in the current landscape makes me want to watch. I remember getting butterflies when Kovalev/Ward was announced and forums going crazy when Garcia/Matthysse was happening. Boxing has to be at it's lowest point ever.

Just such a huge lack of stars. It's even harder now since fighters have abysmal fighting schedules. It's like we're wishing they now fight 2 times a year! Amazing how the landscape has changed.

Those fights were top notch. It was a bold statement from Ward to fight a prime bigger top notch fighter like Kovalev. Same for Garcia.

Sad that Ward was disliked by so many. People said he wouldn't dare to do a rematch either. Hehe

My main issue with him was the favoritism he always got.

Most of his big fights were in Oakland. He could get away with murder, and he could apparently win decisions he didn't deserve and win TKO's with low blows.

He's 0-2 against Kovalev, and I'll go to the grave saying that.

That being said, that's not the story of his career. He is either the #1 or #2 Super Middleweight of all time, an Olympic Gold Medalist who fought basically at the highest level for the majority of his career, and he honestly comes across as a good dude.

I never was too into his style or his fights, but there's no doubting his ability.

[DrDuke]

Those fights were top notch. It was a bold statement from Ward to fight a prime bigger top notch fighter like Kovalev. Same for Garcia.

Sad that Ward was disliked by so many. People said he wouldn't dare to do a rematch either. Hehe

My main issue with him was the favoritism he always got.

Most of his big fights were in Oakland. He could get away with murder, and he could apparently win decisions he didn't deserve and win TKO's with low blows.

He's 0-2 against Kovalev, and I'll go to the grave saying that.

That being said, that's not the story of his career. He is either the #1 or #2 Super Middleweight of all time, an Olympic Gold Medalist who fought basically at the highest level for the majority of his career, and he honestly comes across as a good dude.

I never was too into his style or his fights, but there's no doubting his ability.

The 2nd fight can't be seen as a loss.

[gilgamesh]

Sad that Ward was disliked by so many. People said he wouldn't dare to do a rematch either. Hehe

My main issue with him was the favoritism he always got.

Most of his big fights were in Oakland. He could get away with murder, and he could apparently win decisions he didn't deserve and win TKO's with low blows.

He's 0-2 against Kovalev, and I'll go to the grave saying that.

That being said, that's not the story of his career. He is either the #1 or #2 Super Middleweight of all time, an Olympic Gold Medalist who fought basically at the highest level for the majority of his career, and he honestly comes across as a good dude.

I never was too into his style or his fights, but there's no doubting his ability.

The 2nd fight can't be seen as a loss.

Can't be seen as a win either. You don't win a TKO victory with a low blow combo. If you did Andrew Golota would have 2 wins over Riddick Bowe.

[DrDuke]

My main issue with him was the favoritism he always got.

Most of his big fights were in Oakland. He could get away with murder, and he could apparently win decisions he didn't deserve and win TKO's with low blows.

He's 0-2 against Kovalev, and I'll go to the grave saying that.

That being said, that's not the story of his career. He is either the #1 or #2 Super Middleweight of all time, an Olympic Gold Medalist who fought basically at the highest level for the majority of his career, and he honestly comes across as a good dude.

I never was too into his style or his fights, but there's no doubting his ability.

The 2nd fight can't be seen as a loss.

Can't be seen as a win either. You don't win a TKO victory with a low blow combo. If you did Andrew Golota would have 2 wins over Riddick Bowe.

It's impossible to say that Bowe beat Golota either.

[franciscojavier]

I remember Rummy’s Corner made the point that of all the similarities between Mayweather-Pacquiao and Spence-Crawford, the one big difference is that Mayweather and Pacquiao were genuine mega celebrities with global fanbases, and Spence and Crawford aren’t at all. Canelo-GGG is the closest I can think of in the post-Floyd era to having two fighters who are approaching that level of worldwide stardom and mass interest, throw in Fury-Wilder and Usyk-Joshua as well. I think that speaks to how much more niche boxing has become compared to the 2010’s, let alone the 80’s or earlier. Ryan Garcia Vs. Tank Davis might be able to reach that level given their huge online following, and I hope it does for the sake of the sport.

There are still very good fights made nowadays, like Thurman Vs. Garcia or Spence Vs. Porter or Charlo Vs. Castaño. The difference is that you probably wouldn’t have heard of these guys unless you’re already plugged into boxing. For reference my dad is in his 60’s and isn’t a huge boxing fan, but vividly remembers the Ali era fighters, even the contenders like Quarry and Chuvalo and Shavers. I’m guessing he doesn’t know that many currently active fighters, I know he knows who Wilder is cuz he was talking to me the day after the Helenius fight about him, I think he knows who Fury and Usyk are too, he liked a highlight reel of Tank that I showed him, and that’s about it.

[margaret thatcher]

i like the showbox cards, usually prospects who haven't been hyped much yet matched against each other, with the successful ones often getting opportunities on bigger cards

[apollo creed]

Boxing is gonna end up bad if there are gonna be cherrypicking-stay safe fights.