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Are there any?

I know there will be a difference in terms of lower weights and higher weights.

Some say father time is undefeated. But that's not true is it?

Look at Alien Hopkins. He was a higher weight boxer and was still beating boxers in their prime when he was in his mid to late 40's.

Foreman

FMJ - a boxing&business genius that came out of this sport on his own terms and he is still milking the game big time by fighting in exhibition fights.

Duran should not have been able to win a world title at 37 in a weight class 25 pounds above the one he started in.

That's abnormal.

If Luis Ortiz is anywhere near as old as he's rumoured to be then count him in.

Beat Father Time?

To me beating father time means you died of old age before you stopped being a top boxer.
That hasn't happened therefore father time is still undefeated.

Jack Johnson fought his last bout in 1931. He turned 53 that year.
Larry Holmes fought and decisioned Butterbean in 2002, at the age of 52, going on 53.
Mike Tyson fought in that exhibition versus Roy Jones Jr in 2021, at almost 55 years old.
Bernard "AlienBlood" Hopkins and Archie The Ole Mongoose Moore. Both were still Quite "Very formidable" well into
They're 40's. Duran fought his last bout versus Hector Camacho at 50, to Camacho's 39 years. Was still holding his own
At that point in time. It was actually a vehicle accident that finally ended Duran's carear. Otherwise he likely would've kept
On having pro bouts until the age of 55.

If we are talking world championship level, there aren't many.
Pac
Foreman
Hopkins
Stevenson
Golovkin
All title holders above 40.

Jem Mace. The man continued to give boxing exhibitions into his 70s. No one other than John L Sullivan did more to popularize the Marquess of Queensbury rules than the first world champion of the bare knuckle era Mace.

I'd say Foreman, Mayweather, Hopkins and looks to be Beterbiev who is now at 38

Max Schmelling lived to 99 and Jake LaMotta lived to 95.

Big Klit had 3 title fights in his 40s

The only way to beat father time is to retire before it beats you, so obviously:-

Marciano
Ward
Calzaghe
Mayweather Jr

These are the more celebrated fighters of course.

Other fighters who did a very good job of arresting father time are:-

Foreman
Hopkins
Jofre
Wladimir
Stevenson
Pacquiao
Moore

Maybe you could argue that Jofre actually beat father time, but it caught up with the others to varying degrees.

sugar sven ottke, no blueprint. no man or father of time beat him

BHOP was the 1st boxer to spring to mind.

Hopkins is the one that comes to mind, on the flipside his last fight showed exactly how it catches up with you.

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑30 Jan 2023, 09:11 Hopkins is the one that comes to mind, on the flipside his last fight showed exactly how it catches up with you.

Yeh he hadnt fought for 2 years but never officially retired.

Hopkins didn't beat father time, it just took longer before father time caught up to him than it does most boxers. If I remember right, he was knocked out of the ring by Joe Smith which ultimately was the end of his boxing career.

I agree with the statement that no fighter has ever and will never beat father time.

Even Floyd lost to father time. He just so happened to retire from boxing before father time took enough away from him that he could no longer box at the high level we expected to see from a master boxer like FMJ.

Firat Arslan is 52 years old and still an active boxer rated No. 22 by the IBO and No. 8 by the WBA at cruiserweight.

Oscar De La Hoya is an interesting case:He turns pro at 19, wins his first world title at 21, is involved in 27 world title fights between ages 21 and 31, makes a comeback 2 years later and then spends his last 2 fighting years as a very solid Junior Middleweight. At age 34 he gave a prime Floyd a harder fight than probably anybody other than Castillo or Maidana. Very few fighters can be at the very top of the sport for 10+ years consistently like that, and the ones that do tend to show a lot more wear and tear than Oscar did. His speed, power, and (underrated)iron chin mostly held up through the aging and jumps in weight. The only bump in the road here is that Manny retired him in about the most brutal way imaginable short of a one-punch knockout, but basically every longevity-gifted champion goes out on their shield like that unfortunately.

Age is definitely NOT just a number, especially after you reach 40. Some fighters were able to adapt their fighting styles. Bernard Hopkins was able to maintain prime over 40, but his experience and dirty tricks played big role in that IMO. Still, fighting brutes like Kovalev and Smith at age of 50 is madness

RScarf1 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 01:16 Firat Arslan is 52 years old and still an active boxer rated No. 22 by the IBO and No. 8 by the WBA at cruiserweight.

He literally asking for a brain damage. Some of the higher rated cruiser guys are beasts

RScarf1 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 01:16 Firat Arslan is 52 years old and still an active boxer rated No. 22 by the IBO and No. 8 by the WBA at cruiserweight.

He is, if I’m not mistaken, the first and only boxer of Turkish descent to win a world title. He is from Germany but I’m imagining that’s something a lot of Turks are proud of, given what happened with Yildirim. Also I recall the consensus being that he was robbed against Hernandez, and he was already in his 40’s by then damn! I should check out some of his fights.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 14:42

RScarf1 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 01:16 Firat Arslan is 52 years old and still an active boxer rated No. 22 by the IBO and No. 8 by the WBA at cruiserweight.

He literally asking for a brain damage. Some of the higher rated cruiser guys are beasts

Boxing at all is asking for brain damage.

Rocky Balboa boxed Mason the Line Dixon at age of 60