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Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 09:11**

I was trying to rack my brains last night of any potential boxer or fight which would get me excited, I honestly couldn't think of 1, I used to look forward to a Naz fight, a Mayweather fight, Pac Man fight, GGG fight, When is the new boxing star coming along? When are the mega fights going to happen again?

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 09:28**

I see it becoming more and more niche, with a handful of big names reaping in the biggest slice from a smaller and smaller pie.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 09:42**

CIRCLING THE DRAIN

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 09:46**

I think the one good thing that might come of these social media types is that they are making boxers look like idiots and prima dona's demanding so much. These instagram types are showing you can easily make tens of millions of dollars without all the horseshit. Boxers will soon be without any excuse for not fighting each other.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 09:58**

My son is 22. Like most lads his age he loves football. He just landed his first proper job as a football analyst. Sports mad.

He says amongst his friends boxing is the second most popular sport.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 12:28**

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 09:58 My son is 22. Like most lads his age he loves football. He just landed his first proper job as a football analyst. Sports mad.

He says amongst his friends boxing is the second most popular sport.

The impression I get is that it's more popular than it was, say, 15-20 years ago.

I looked it up a while ago, Football is by far the most followed sport in the UK (about 35-40% of people).

Then you have Cricket, Rugby and Tennis (between 12-17%).

Then Boxing and Golf (both at around 10%).

Everything else (Horse Racing, etc.) is below that.

Unfortunately it didn't include MMA for comparison.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 12:32**

How do they measure that?

I can't believe there are more people who follow tennis than boxing.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 12:36**

It's a survey, so they ask a sample and extrapolate out from that.

Regarding tennis, that's the figure for men and women. Also it's just asking if you watch it, it doesn't ask how often. So a lot of people may just watch Wimbledon once a year.

Edit: here is the source https://yougov.co.uk/topics/sport/track ... ort-a-team

Take it for what you will.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 12:57**

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:32 How do they measure that?

I can't believe there are more people who follow tennis than boxing.

I can, easily.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 13:06**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:57
Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:32 How do they measure that?

I can't believe there are more people who follow tennis than boxing.
I can, easily.

Yep
Thats an easy one
Competitive
Occasional upset
But best ultimately play the best
Over and over

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 13:13**

si7dog7 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:06
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:57
Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:32 How do they measure that?

I can't believe there are more people who follow tennis than boxing.
I can, easily.
Yep
Thats an easy one
Competitive
Occasional upset
But best ultimately play the best
Over and over

Four massive tournaments every year where the top players in the worls duke it out over 2 weeks, that alone pisses all over boxing.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 13:23**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:13
si7dog7 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:06
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:57

I can, easily.
Yep
Thats an easy one
Competitive
Occasional upset
But best ultimately play the best
Over and over
Four massive tournaments every year where the top players in the worls duke it out over 2 weeks, that alone pisses all over boxing.

I don’t wanna mention Talksh##t
But “LIV” Boxing was mentioned

Can you imagine the carnage to the game?

Its already started with “Skill Challenge Entertainment”
It won’t stop
The guys on the usual mid to high level cards building a rep won’t get any of the residuals.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 13:41**

i've heard this tiresome conversation for 30 years now. boxings not going anywhere, its not gonna change, it is what it is. people will always watch it, people will always moan about it.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 14:40**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:41 i've heard this tiresome conversation for 30 years now. boxings not going anywhere, its not gonna change, it is what it is. people will always watch it, people will always moan about it.

Agreed
So do we do something about the OC and money organising their preferences?

Or just say.

“It is what is is”

So money wins?
Bollox

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 14:55**

si7dog7 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 14:40
Steveh583 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:41 i've heard this tiresome conversation for 30 years now. boxings not going anywhere, its not gonna change, it is what it is. people will always watch it, people will always moan about it.
Agreed
So do we do something about the OC and money organising their preferences?

Or just say.

“It is what is is”

So money wins?
Bollox

It is what it is.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 14:58**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 14:55
si7dog7 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 14:40
Steveh583 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:41 i've heard this tiresome conversation for 30 years now. boxings not going anywhere, its not gonna change, it is what it is. people will always watch it, people will always moan about it.
Agreed
So do we do something about the OC and money organising their preferences?

Or just say.

“It is what is is”

So money wins?
Bollox
It is what it is.

And it changes with the money.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 16:46**

J-C wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 12:28
Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 09:58 My son is 22. Like most lads his age he loves football. He just landed his first proper job as a football analyst. Sports mad.

He says amongst his friends boxing is the second most popular sport.
The impression I get is that it's more popular than it was, say, 15-20 years ago.

I looked it up a while ago, Football is by far the most followed sport in the UK (about 35-40% of people).

Then you have Cricket, Rugby and Tennis (between 12-17%).

Then Boxing and Golf (both at around 10%).

Everything else (Horse Racing, etc.) is below that.

Unfortunately it didn't include MMA for comparison.

I think in 50 years time or less all sports (especially football) will have a lot less followers .
When I was a lad growing up in the 80s , it was very rare if you didn't play football in my area .
Now a lot less kids are playing ( jumpers for goalposts in the park ) . We'd play all year round in the dark in all weathers .
Kids have more distractions nowadays and when they grow older will have zero interest in sport and I think football will be the major loser .

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 19:13**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 13:41 i've heard this tiresome conversation for 30 years now. boxings not going anywhere, its not gonna change, it is what it is. people will always watch it, people will always moan about it.

Agree.

If boxing was killable it would have died a long, long time ago. Truth is, the pure raw appeal of boxing will see it is around for generations and generations into the future, and some will love it and others will moan.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 21:19**

Whilst little kids are pushing each other in the schoolyard , saying spit over that line , and a 100 other little kids are running towards them shouting , FIGHT , FIGHT , FIGHT , , IT WILL SURVIVE , . people fighting is a part of life, and that them there are facts

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 21:28**

coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:19 Whilst little kids are pushing each other in the schoolyard , saying spit over that line , and a 100 other little kids are running towards them shouting , FIGHT , FIGHT , FIGHT , , IT WILL SURVIVE , . people fighting is a part of life, and that them there are facts

Sadly, some parents still think the best recourse for such situations is to take their child to learn taekwondo or something equally useless for schoolyard self defence. I guess seeing your child high kick fresh air is a bit more glamourous than having them taught to punch someone in the nose.

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 21:43**

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:28
coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:19 Whilst little kids are pushing each other in the schoolyard , saying spit over that line , and a 100 other little kids are running towards them shouting , FIGHT , FIGHT , FIGHT , , IT WILL SURVIVE , . people fighting is a part of life, and that them there are facts
Sadly, some parents still think the best recourse for such situations is to take their child to learn taekwondo or something equally useless for schoolyard self defence. I guess seeing your child high kick fresh air is a bit more glamourous than having them taught to punch someone in the nose.

Got a mate who owns and runs a martial arts school , he's made a fortune off it over the years , mainly by giving familly discounts , and keeping it NON CONTACT , You would be amazed at the amount of well to do people wh line u to give him money and actually believe he's taught them to be the second coming of Bruce Lee and they have never ever recieved a kick or a punch that was full force , he only allows very light contact sparring with armor on , and they love it , they pay him shit loads to join and buy there belts

Posted: **09 Jun 2023, 21:46**

coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:43
Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:28
coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:19 Whilst little kids are pushing each other in the schoolyard , saying spit over that line , and a 100 other little kids are running towards them shouting , FIGHT , FIGHT , FIGHT , , IT WILL SURVIVE , . people fighting is a part of life, and that them there are facts
Sadly, some parents still think the best recourse for such situations is to take their child to learn taekwondo or something equally useless for schoolyard self defence. I guess seeing your child high kick fresh air is a bit more glamourous than having them taught to punch someone in the nose.
Got a mate who owns and runs a martial arts school , he's made a fortune off it over the years , mainly by giving familly discounts , and keeping it NON CONTACT , You would be amazed at the amount of well to do people wh line u to give him money and actually believe he's taught them to be the second coming of Bruce Lee and they have never ever recieved a kick or a punch that was full force , he only allows very light contact sparring with armor on , and they love it , they pay him shit loads to join and buy there belts

It sounds like what he offered was great fun for the kids and nobody would ever have got hurt during class either, so the parents would have been all smiles as well. But...

Posted: **10 Jun 2023, 05:24**

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:46
coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:43
Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:28

Sadly, some parents still think the best recourse for such situations is to take their child to learn taekwondo or something equally useless for schoolyard self defence. I guess seeing your child high kick fresh air is a bit more glamourous than having them taught to punch someone in the nose.
Got a mate who owns and runs a martial arts school , he's made a fortune off it over the years , mainly by giving familly discounts , and keeping it NON CONTACT , You would be amazed at the amount of well to do people wh line u to give him money and actually believe he's taught them to be the second coming of Bruce Lee and they have never ever recieved a kick or a punch that was full force , he only allows very light contact sparring with armor on , and they love it , they pay him shit loads to join and buy there belts
It sounds like what he offered was great fun for the kids and nobody would ever have got hurt during class either, so the parents would have been all smiles as well. But...

I worked with this guy years ago , believe me he's made an absolute killing , come grading time everyone gets a belt , providing they pay just takes your brown belt and gives you the next one , then sells yours to the next one , when he fails a familly , alls they have to do is stop coming and paying and thats an assurance they will go up a grade next time, at a grading cost of course . Thing is though your correct , he offers fun and confidence to the geeky who love it and actually believe there the second coming off Chuck Norris , Has long has they pay everyones a winner , .

Used to shake my head how he does it , i had trouble getting two dollars a week subs out of kids ,

Posted: **10 Jun 2023, 05:45**

coneye wrote: ↑10 Jun 2023, 05:24
Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:46
coneye wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 21:43

Got a mate who owns and runs a martial arts school , he's made a fortune off it over the years , mainly by giving familly discounts , and keeping it NON CONTACT , You would be amazed at the amount of well to do people wh line u to give him money and actually believe he's taught them to be the second coming of Bruce Lee and they have never ever recieved a kick or a punch that was full force , he only allows very light contact sparring with armor on , and they love it , they pay him shit loads to join and buy there belts
It sounds like what he offered was great fun for the kids and nobody would ever have got hurt during class either, so the parents would have been all smiles as well. But...
I worked with this guy years ago , believe me he's made an absolute killing , come grading time everyone gets a belt , providing they pay just takes your brown belt and gives you the next one , then sells yours to the next one , when he fails a familly , alls they have to do is stop coming and paying and thats an assurance they will go up a grade next time, at a grading cost of course . Thing is though your correct , he offers fun and confidence to the geeky who love it and actually believe there the second coming off Chuck Norris , Has long has they pay everyones a winner , .

Used to shake my head how he does it , i had trouble getting two dollars a week subs out of kids , :lol: :lol:

There is a sucker born every minute and usually the kid who most needs good quality training comes from a family who wouldn't recognize it if they fell over it.

Posted: **10 Jun 2023, 06:18**

In my 20’s, I was more involved in the sport and people were saying then that boxing was dying. I’m nearly 50 now.

You could argue it’s bigger than ever. Dedicated channels, record PPV figures and record purses.

For the purist it isn’t as good. Remember those stacked cards of the nineties. UK support events featuring world champions before switching to the US for another stacked card. I’m getting giddy at the thought.

But in terms of mass media appeal it’s still up there. It might not be many people’s #1 sport over the course of a year, but nothing beats a big heavyweight title fight for excitement.

That is the jewel in the crown. Everyone suddenly becomes an expert and walks home throwing one-twos.

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