Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 14:50
by apollo creed
Imo it would be more fair to see a legit "hybrid fight" betwwen a top pro boxer and a top pro mma fighter on stand up striking rules like kickboxing than just on boxing rules wich clearly advantage the boxer.
How "greedy belly" would do against Ngannou in a 5 rounds kickboxing match ?
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 15:20
by gilgamesh
I suspect he'd get his ass kicked. I've always figured a Kickboxing match was the way a Boxer vs an MMA match oughta be fought.
It's halfway between both sports.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 15:43
by SendoTakeshi97
Same thing would happen like when Ali fought Inoki:
Ali's left leg was so badly swollen and bleeding that it led to an infection. He also suffered two blood clots in his legs affecting his mobility for the remainder of his boxing career. At one point amputation was also discussed [...]
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 17:55
by Lackeos
I'm not sure if Fury would be able to handle kicks well. It'd probably be more mutually fair if they allowed punches, takedowns, and submissions; but no standing kicks, knees, or elbows. The boxing skillset is just not very good if you can't defend leg kicks.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:08
by apollo creed
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 15:20I suspect he'd get his ass kicked. I've always figured a Kickboxing match was the way a Boxer vs an MMA match oughta be fought.
It's halfway between both sports.
true. thats a legit halfway between both sports.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:17
by apollo creed
SendoTakeshi97 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 15:43
Same thing would happen like when Ali fought Inoki:
Ali's left leg was so badly swollen and bleeding that it led to an infection. He also suffered two blood clots in his legs affecting his mobility for the remainder of his boxing career. At one point amputation was also discussed [...]
Saw it. Inoki had to kick Ali only from staying on the ground. No stand-up leg kicking. Those were the rules. If Inoki would've lowkicked Ali from a stand up position then Ali would've been severely injured.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:27
by apollo creed
Lackeos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 17:55
I'm not sure if Fury would be able to handle kicks well. It'd probably be more mutually fair if they allowed punches, takedowns, and submissions; but no standing kicks, knees, or elbows. The boxing skillset is just not very good if you can't defend leg kicks.
Indeed a boxer is very vulnerable to leg kicks. But imo this would be a legit hybrid fight between a boxer and a mma fighter. Just stand-up striking.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 20:51
by goose 5
I'd like to see a match with kicking allowed but not below the waist.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 06:02
by apollo creed
goose 5 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 20:51
I'd like to see a match with kicking allowed but not below the waist.
Well, that would be interesting. There are lots of variations of leg kicks above the waist but the boxer would have a better chance to defend himself.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 09:41
by SportsRatings
Ngannou almost never kicks. I don't think I've seen him kick once that I can recall.
I'm sure he trains kicking a lot and just never uses them, so he would still gain an advantage, but it might not change things drastically in the ring.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 06 Oct 2023, 02:15
by Heretic
Lackeos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 17:55
The boxing skillset is just not very good if you can't defend leg kicks.
This exactly.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 06 Oct 2023, 08:14
by IRONFIST
If kicking is allowed the kick-boxer wins more often than not, a kick on average is much harder than a punch.
Vitali Klitschko getting kayoed by Pele Reid in a kick-boxing contest whereas a peak Reid wouldn't have lasted two rounds in a real boxing match with a peak VK:
Then there's the horrible spectacle of Ali vs Inoki:
James Toney getting beaten up in MMA/UFC etc.
I don't like seeing this mix, it cheapens boxing.
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 06 Oct 2023, 18:19
by Thomastearns
IRONFIST wrote: ↑06 Oct 2023, 08:14
If kicking is allowed the kick-boxer wins more often than not, a kick on average is much harder than a punch.
Vitali Klitschko getting kayoed by Pele Reid in a kick-boxing contest whereas a peak Reid wouldn't have lasted two rounds in a real boxing match with a peak VK:
Then there's the horrible spectacle of Ali vs Inoki:
James Toney getting beaten up in MMA/UFC etc.
I don't like seeing this mix, it cheapens boxing.
It's also absolutely pointless from a sporting perspective. No matter how good you might be in one discipline you'll never be a world champion in both.
It's more than hard enough to manage it in one, isn't it?
I doubt whether even someone like Bruce Lee would have gone more than a few rounds boxing someone like Naoya Inoue.
It's also like comparing chalk and cheese for everyone apart the simply curious. Even that Ali v Inoki matchup where they tried to level the playing field a little ended up in a fiasco.
Ali never bothered trying to repeat that painful experience and must have regretted it deeply afterwards.
Besides, apart from those starry eyed fans, who needs this nonsense when there's always plenty of great boxing matchups to be made?
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?
Posted: 15 Oct 2023, 10:14
by apollo creed
mma gloves, allowing elbows , clinching/holding and punching, Superman punches, spinning backfists and even thigh punches.
pretty much a hands only "muay thai" boxing match using mma gloves
Re: Fury vs Ngannou would be an intriguing fight on kick-boxing rules! How Fury would do in that type of fight ?