Wilder Vs Joshua March 9th (ESPN)

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Mike Coppinger reports that both sides have agreed for the fight (8 years in the making :roll: ) for March 9th in Ryadh, SA.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/ ... ch-9-clash
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all hail saudi arabia :lol:
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Both of their scheduled fights are possible upsets. I think they're both favourites but obviously, they're not walkovers. Announcing this probably draws more hype to the event but it seems like a curse to me.
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I don’t care the results of 23rd, this fight should still happen next… if one gets horrifically KO’d move it back to may… but this should be next regardless.
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Go Parker and Wallin. :OhYes:
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gregregegg wrote: 13 Dec 2023, 21:56 I don’t care the results of 23rd, this fight should still happen next… if one gets horrifically KO’d move it back to may… but this should be next regardless.

100% agree.

This is the fight that fans have been clamouring for years and years and years.

The world was a completely different place back then, so much has changed. The one thing that hasn't changed is that this is still the hottest fight in all of boxing.

This is also the kind of fight that shows up the various alphabet sanctioning bodies (leeches) and all of their belts (that should be dumped in the bin) for exactly what they are.

Useless parasites.

Right now the Ring Magazine belt is the only one with any credibility whatsoever.
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Yea, ring belt has some minor issues, but it’s the only belt you look at and think… “solid rankings”

No random boxrec 600th ends up as 14th a week befor it’s announced he is fighting the champ….
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joshj909 wrote: 13 Dec 2023, 21:20 Both of their scheduled fights are possible upsets. I think they're both favourites but obviously, they're not walkovers. Announcing this probably draws more hype to the event but it seems like a curse to me.
I was thinking the same thing. Parker and Wallin are not the kinda guys that can be taken for granted as a definite win.

Nobody thought AJ was gonna lose to Andy Ruiz either.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 16:23
Does this shock anyone?
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Well, it'd be very good if this match-up did happen. Pretty closely matched, action-packed, and they both bring good drawing power to the table. Obviously there would be a lot of money in the fight. But, I'll compare it to this: in the 90's, I wish we got every combination of Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and Bowe matching up with each other in their prime. In the 80's, we were fortunate enough to get treated to every combination of Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, and Duran. In 2015-2025, I wish we will get every combination of Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder matching up while they're still prime. This is a match-up for history, and they better not let it go to waste.
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tiny_acres wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 22:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 16:23
Does this shock anyone?
Changed the subject accordingly. :roll: :brick: :witzend:
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Lackeos wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 01:18 Well, it'd be very good if this match-up did happen. Pretty closely matched, action-packed, and they both bring good drawing power to the table. Obviously there would be a lot of money in the fight. But, I'll compare it to this: in the 90's, I wish we got every combination of Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and Bowe matching up with each other in their prime. In the 80's, we were fortunate enough to get treated to every combination of Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, and Duran. In 2015-2025, I wish we will get every combination of Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder matching up while they're still prime. This is a match-up for history, and they better not let it go to waste.
Well, it is the best available, which tells us the state of boxing today and the state of the HW division.

However, when you look at the names of the past you have listed, makes me want to cry at how desperately low and how far the bar, in terms of quality, has dropped.

Joshua and Wilder, I mean, for todays HW's and fans its decent, but after watching Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis, you realise how abysmal the actual quality and what we, unfortunately, now term as 'elite' HWs is. its actually dire.

Not even going to go into Hagler, Hearns, Duran and Leonard....plus many, many others.
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Lackeos wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 01:18 Well, it'd be very good if this match-up did happen. Pretty closely matched, action-packed, and they both bring good drawing power to the table. Obviously there would be a lot of money in the fight. But, I'll compare it to this: in the 90's, I wish we got every combination of Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and Bowe matching up with each other in their prime. In the 80's, we were fortunate enough to get treated to every combination of Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, and Duran. In 2015-2025, I wish we will get every combination of Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder matching up while they're still prime. This is a match-up for history, and they better not let it go to waste.

- Deyonce turned down a fortune when AJ needed a replacement for his American Debut after Big Baby pooped dirty. A cast of top tens including Flubber also refused record purses, so no, AJ don't need any more fainting goats. Fat Andy the only MAN of the bunch willing to take a record purse still don't get the credit he deserves.

Deyonce fought Eric Molina ca 2014 on the undercard of Brooksy/Porter at the Staples Center in front of a half dozen folks, probably friends and relatives.

>>>>> 2018 vs Flubber:
Attendance: 17,698.
The fight generated 325,000 pay-per-view buys on Showtime and $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue.

Piffling numbers, but he did rate a statue in his hometown of Tuscaloosa Alabama that made growed men cry in front of their children proclaiming he Da Man, I weep you not :TU:

Now closing in on 40 and still claiming Flubber knocked him out with egg weights, blah, blah, so neither he nor Flubber are worth negotiating with because they loafers too loose and shorts too full to make a decent professional bout with AJ. If AJ who is already worth a huge fortune wants to box on for 2-3 more years, he can pick up some loose belts after Usyk retires, likely after his next bout that probably sees him needing an emergency replacement since Flubber won't honor any agreement.

I like Usyk vs Hrg in an all Euro dustup where The People can see how honorable fighting is supposed to be conducted instead of this disasterous International bloodletting currently befouling the whole of our 3rd milliennium.

5000 years of recorded history and law with tens of thousands of years of remarkable archeology evidence, and uncountable trillions of historic and current data stored around the world with mega computers crunching trillions data bits 365 days of the year, and this the best Our World can do?

Only in boxing, folks :TU:
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Truth BRR.
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gregregegg wrote: 13 Dec 2023, 21:56 I don’t care the results of 23rd, this fight should still happen next… if one gets horrifically KO’d move it back to may… but this should be next regardless.
Gosh, your very understanding.
If Parker beats Wilder, then Wilder is done-pure and simple. Putting him in with AJ after that is madness, not even the sportswashing saudis would want a bar of that.
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KiwiRider wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 16:14
gregregegg wrote: 13 Dec 2023, 21:56 I don’t care the results of 23rd, this fight should still happen next… if one gets horrifically KO’d move it back to may… but this should be next regardless.
Gosh, your very understanding.
If Parker beats Wilder, then Wilder is done-pure and simple. Putting him in with AJ after that is madness, not even the sportswashing saudis would want a bar of that.
Wilder was done after fury 2, AJ was done after Ruiz, fury was done after nganu, Parker was done after Joyce, Joyce was done after Zhang….

Everyone can’t be done when they loose, or you end up with lovejoy like boxrec records.

Right now it’s 50-50… if AJ blasts out wallin, and Parker blasts out wilder it’s still probably a 75-25 fight. Which is more than close enough to warrant given 8 years of build up.

If wilder is conscious he is a chance vs AJ, done or not done.
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I feel like Wilder and Joshua are mainly fighting for the Bronze Medal of their Heavyweight era, but also it gives the winner of their bout or bouts a chance at the Highest level of Glory once more.

I can't imagine this isn't the move to make for both of these guys. It's a dangerous fight for both obviously, but the reward for coming out on top in it is huge.
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gilgamesh wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 19:33 I feel like Wilder and Joshua are mainly fighting for the Bronze Medal of their Heavyweight era, but also it gives the winner of their bout or bouts a chance at the Highest level of Glory once more.

I can't imagine this isn't the move to make for both of these guys. It's a dangerous fight for both obviously, but the reward for coming out on top in it is huge.
The winner could get the silver medal. If Joshua and Usyk win then Joshua and Fury could both be second best. If Wilder and Fury win then Wilder or Usyk could be second best. If Usyk and Wilder or Fury and Joshua win then it's a bronze medal match. Follow up matches would be needed.
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joshj909 wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 19:42
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 19:33 I feel like Wilder and Joshua are mainly fighting for the Bronze Medal of their Heavyweight era, but also it gives the winner of their bout or bouts a chance at the Highest level of Glory once more.

I can't imagine this isn't the move to make for both of these guys. It's a dangerous fight for both obviously, but the reward for coming out on top in it is huge.
The winner could get the silver medal. If Joshua and Usyk win then Joshua and Fury could both be second best. If Wilder and Fury win then Wilder or Usyk could be second best. If Usyk and Wilder or Fury and Joshua win then it's a bronze medal match. Follow up matches would be needed.
Indeed. I guess I should've said it sets them up to be at least the 3rd best of their era, but yes if they win the fights that winning here would give them it could mean even more.
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It would be insane if it all wound back around to one of these guys on top with either Joshua meeting Fury or Wilder meeting Usyk for the World Title.

The possibilities are fun, and I think we got interesting fights to be made no matter what outcomes we get really.
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Fury Usyk have dual rematch clauses so will possibly fight twice. What happens then? If Fury wins 2X he will fight 8 more times, and if Usyk wins he will retire? Joshua's next move should depend on who wins in Feb. As much as I'd like to see it better late than never, winning his belts back has to take priority. :salut:
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Little chance we will see Wilder-Joshua on March 9th. Not even convinced we will see Wilder-Joshua as the immediate follow up to the December 23rd card.

Don't discount the possibility of Wilder-Ngannou and Joshua-Miller.
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oogiebe wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 10:14
tiny_acres wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 22:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 16:23
Does this shock anyone?
Changed the subject accordingly. :roll: :brick: :witzend:
Boxing might have a better chance of Rappel vs. Coppinger The two men are almost ready to come to blows.
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pound per pound wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 09:39
oogiebe wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 10:14
tiny_acres wrote: 14 Dec 2023, 22:27

Does this shock anyone?
Changed the subject accordingly. :roll: :brick: :witzend:
Boxing might have a better chance of Rappel vs. Coppinger The two men are almost ready to come to blows.
I'd pay the PPV fee for that! :OhYes:
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