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A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 18:40
by si7dog7
Right we got a round robin of 8 PEAK 90s British Midfleweights/Super Middleweights.

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman


1 v 2
3 v 4

Winner meets The Cobra

Who’s the Champ?

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:22
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 18:40 Right we got a round robin of 8 PEAK 90s British Midfleweights/Super Middleweights.

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman


1 v 2
3 v 4

Winner meets The Cobra

Who’s the Champ?

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe - CALZAGHE KO

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid - EUBANK KO

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman - WOODALL PTS


1 v 2 - GRAHAM V CALZAGHE - CALZAGHE KO
3 v 4 - EUBANK V WOODALL - EUBANK KO

Winner meets The Cobra - CALZAGHE KO EUBANK

Who’s the Champ? CALZAGHE SCHOOLS PUNISHES AND STOPS FROCH
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Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:36
by CaptainSpacerod
All at their peak, Herol dazzles em all

Herol v Collins ……. Herol pts

Benn v Joe ……. Joe pts

Eubank v Reid …….. Eubank KO

Woodall v Eastman ……. Woodall pts

Herol v Joe …….. split decision Herol

Eubank v Woodall ….. split decision Richie

Herol v Woodall ….. UD Herol

Herol v Froch ……. UD Herol

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:43
by jwfg
si7dog7 wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 18:40 Right we got a round robin of 8 PEAK 90s British Midfleweights/Super Middleweights.

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman


1 v 2
3 v 4

Winner meets The Cobra

Who’s the Champ?
Collins
Joe
Eubank
Richie

Joe
Richie

Joe

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:49
by Noxy
Interesting ...

Herol
Joe
Chris
Richie

Joe
Chris

Joe goes on to meet Froch and wins a UD.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:53
by NazNaci1
Graham UD
Calzaghe Close Decision
Eubank UD
Woodhall UD

Graham over Calzaghe
Eubank UD

Graham Decisions Eubank, close, again.

Graham Decisions Froch

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 20:15
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 19:22
si7dog7 wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 18:40 Right we got a round robin of 8 PEAK 90s British Midfleweights/Super Middleweights.

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman


1 v 2
3 v 4

Winner meets The Cobra

Who’s the Champ?

1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO

2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe - CALZAGHE KO

3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid - EUBANK KO

4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman - WOODALL PTS


1 v 2 - GRAHAM V CALZAGHE - CALZAGHE KO
3 v 4 - EUBANK V WOODALL - EUBANK KO

Winner meets The Cobra - CALZAGHE KO EUBANK

Who’s the Champ? CALZAGHE SCHOOLS PUNISHES AND STOPS FROCH
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About right

I could make a case for Woodhall though

Graham PTS v Collins
Eubank pts v Reid
Woodhall PTS v Eastman

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 23:03
by Grilling Machine
Herol Graham v Steve Collins

Collins mixed with elite company in his middleweight prime, and I'd fancy McCallum to beat everyone on this list. I think he'd manage to sneak it by a nose as Graham tired in the final third. Collins MD/SD.

Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe

Calzaghe UD. Benn might've knocked him down and dominated for a spell, but none of Joe's opponents ever kept him from coming back. For all Benn's power and menace there was a gulf in footwork.

Chris Eubank v Robin Reid

Tightish MD/SD affair, but Eubank wins for commercial reasons.

Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman

Eastman was always a bit of a mystery to me, so dunno. I'll take a punt on him living his best life and edging it with sporadic moments of quality.

Steve Collins v Joe Calzaghe

Close fight full of heart and content, but I think Calzaghe's footwork is the difference. Again! Calzaghe narrow UD.

Chris Eubank v Howard Eastman

Maybe suits Eubank for one of his classically mercurial SDs.

Chris Eubank v Joe Calzaghe

Well we've seen it, but Eubank was coming down the hill as Calzaghe was climbing. A younger Eubank could've beaten that greener Calzaghe, the same as Calzaghe in his prime was a match for any Eubank. Calzaghe SD/UD more often than not.

Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe

Froch might've scared Calzaghe once or twice (think Reid's best moment), but cards ranging 115 to 117 Calzaghe by UD.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 03:15
by veriton
Any computation with Calzaghe on it is easy - Calzaghe wins!

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 05:42
by jwfg
veriton wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 03:15 Any computation with Calzaghe on it is easy - Calzaghe wins!
But Benn drops him in the first. :TU:

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 06:19
by JC
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 19:221. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO
That's a strange pick, mate. How would you see that playing out?

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 06:21
by SeanBrennan
J-C wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 06:19
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 19:221. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO
That's a strange pick, mate. How would you see that playing out?
I selected it based on my massive bias towards Ingle fighters, despite Collins never being stopped :)

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 13:31
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 06:21
J-C wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 06:19
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 19:221. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO
That's a strange pick, mate. How would you see that playing out?
I selected it based on my massive bias towards Ingle fighters, despite Collins never being stopped :)
Don't see the KO, but at that level Collins could be outboxed

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 15:52
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 13:31
SeanBrennan wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 06:21
J-C wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 06:19

That's a strange pick, mate. How would you see that playing out?
I selected it based on my massive bias towards Ingle fighters, despite Collins never being stopped :)
Don't see the KO, but at that level Collins could be outboxed
think I got over excited tbh. Please never follow any predictions from me even mythical ones

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32
by si7dog7
Tbh I didn’t include Michael Watson. Who was my favourite amongst early 90s Middles/SuperMiddleweights.

Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will. The

Surprised no-one has gone for The Cobra in the final battle. His resume is pretty much over the others tbf.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 17:05
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Tbh I didn’t include Michael Watson. Who was my favourite amongst early 90s Middles/SuperMiddleweights.

Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will. The

Surprised no-one has gone for The Cobra in the final battle. His resume is pretty much over the others tbf.
good shout re Froch.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 17:08
by jwfg
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will.
x2 :cry:

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 17:13
by SeanBrennan
jwfg wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 17:08
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will.
x2 :cry:
reading about it is harrowing enough isn't it.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 17:29
by si7dog7
jwfg wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 17:08
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will.
x2 :cry:
Mate. It’s always a tragedy when something like this happens. Whatever the level. Michael was superb tho. Amongst my mates I picked him over Benn at Finsbury. I was laughed at. A smooth boxer with a dig. Loved watching him. The McCallum fight was great in defeat. Mind you. Body snatcher was one of the best.
Won’t watch the last one tho. Being a fellow Gooner don’t come in to it. Lovely boxer. Lovely man. Still is

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 17:35
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 17:29
jwfg wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 17:08
si7dog7 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will.
x2 :cry:
Mate. It’s always a tragedy when something like this happens. Whatever the level. Michael was superb tho. Amongst my mates I picked him over Benn at Finsbury. I was laughed at. A smooth boxer with a dig. Loved watching him. The McCallum fight was great in defeat. Mind you. Body snatcher was one of the best.
Won’t watch the last one tho. Being a fellow Gooner don’t come in to it. Lovely boxer. Lovely man. Still is
Lovely words mate.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 19:44
by jlh
Never been a massive fan but Calazghe was different class. His match making was so poor we never got to see how great he was (maybe that's why I was never a fan).

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 19:55
by JamesPhilips
Graham so overrated

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 20:07
by Steveh583
JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 19:55 Graham so overrated
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU:

its not like he didnt get ample opportunity yet seems to get a pass for falling short

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 21:47
by Monzon83
jlh wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 19:44 Never been a massive fan but Calazghe was different class. His match making was so poor we never got to see how great he was (maybe that's why I was never a fan).
I think people make too many excuses for him. He held the WBO belt hostage for a decade and was happy fighting Tocker Pudwills and Kabary Salems and various other nobodies. He didn’t want to fight outside the UK but then when it came to fighting past it legends he couldn’t get to Vegas quick enough. He squeezed past a 43 year old Hopkins and then fought a shot RJJ. Prime RJJ would have taken him apart, something he’s admitted himself. The Lacy win is massively overrated and really it’s one narrow win against Kessler that’s his best win.

Froch’s CV wipes the floor with his all day long.

I’m not denying he was a good fighter but his reputation vastly exceeds his actual achievements IMO. There are people who have him on their ATG list which amazes me.

Re: A what if scenario

Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 21:53
by si7dog7
Monzon83 wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 21:47
jlh wrote: 16 Feb 2024, 19:44 Never been a massive fan but Calazghe was different class. His match making was so poor we never got to see how great he was (maybe that's why I was never a fan).
I think people make too many excuses for him. He held the WBO belt hostage for a decade and was happy fighting Tocker Pudwills and Kabary Salems and various other nobodies. He didn’t want to fight outside the UK but then when it came to fighting past it legends he couldn’t get to Vegas quick enough. He squeezed past a 43 year old Hopkins and then fought a shot RJJ. Prime RJJ would have taken him apart, something he’s admitted himself. The Lacy win is massively overrated and really it’s a very close call against Kessler that’s his best win.

Froch’s CV wipes the floor with his all day long.

I’m not denying he was a good fighter but his reputation vastly exceeds his actual achievements IMO. There are people who have him on their ATG list which amazes me.
I’m totally with you on this