Matchrooms 'Global' promotion

[The_Don1]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

[SAPFO]

I think the Prizefighter series could be rebooted in the ME. Maybe a ‘Masters’ category?

[maverick23]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

The reality is that Eddie will solely care about the profit he can make.

It seems like DAZN were no longer as willing to shell out for fights/fighters that don’t generate a return. Hence no longer overpaying guys in the US and cutting the cord on shows in traditionally smaller boxing countries like Italy/Spain.

It seems Matchroom are now focusing partly on shows where they can generate a rights fee, like what was meant to happen in Japan.

I’m not sure what happened there but I’d imagine the rights fee/deposit wasn’t paid. Who knows though.

There’s a bit of talk they’ll be doing a show in Africa this year (Equatorial Guinea) and they’ve got pretty heavy involvement in all 3 Saudi shows this year. Plus Monaco, Mexico and I’d imagine another country or two.

I’d prefer they were doing more in the U.K. I’d still imagine they would have done more U.K. shows than any of the other promoters by the end of May but the quality needs to get better.

I am surprised they haven’t done more in Abu Dhabi though. Saying that I’m not sure they’ve got the depth to their stable to deliver big shows in their usual markets, now Saudi and have a couple in Abu Dhabi too.

[SeanBrennan]

that's disappointing, was looking forward to it, would have been a good time televised for UK too.

[The_Don1]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

The reality is that Eddie will solely care about the profit he can make.

It seems like DAZN were no longer as willing to shell out for fights/fighters that don’t generate a return. Hence no longer overpaying guys in the US and cutting the cord on shows in traditionally smaller boxing countries like Italy/Spain.

It seems Matchroom are now focusing partly on shows where they can generate a rights fee, like what was meant to happen in Japan.

I’m not sure what happened there but I’d imagine the rights fee/deposit wasn’t paid. Who knows though.

There’s a bit of talk they’ll be doing a show in Africa this year (Equatorial Guinea) and they’ve got pretty heavy involvement in all 3 Saudi shows this year. Plus Monaco, Mexico and I’d imagine another country or two.

I’d prefer they were doing more in the U.K. I’d still imagine they would have done more U.K. shows than any of the other promoters by the end of May but the quality needs to get better.

I am surprised they haven’t done more in Abu Dhabi though. Saying that I’m not sure they’ve got the depth to their stable to deliver big shows in their usual markets, now Saudi and have a couple in Abu Dhabi too.

Yep, good shout about the rights fee, he'll go anywhere that pays a fee to stage the fights it seems.

[SeanBrennan]

showing my lack of knowledge - does a rights fee basically mean a third party/the venue pays you to hold a show there?

[The_Don1]

showing my lack of knowledge - does a rights fee basically mean a third party/the venue pays you to hold a show there?

I don't know the exact ins and outs of it, but basically yes is the answer. The Caribe Royale in Florida pays Matchroom a site fee, hence why it's a popular venue with Matchroom these days, there's likely plenty others too.

[SeanBrennan]

showing my lack of knowledge - does a rights fee basically mean a third party/the venue pays you to hold a show there?

I don't know the exact ins and outs of it, but basically yes is the answer. The Caribe Royale in Florida pays Matchroom a site fee, hence why it's a popular venue with Matchroom these days, there's likely plenty others too.

ah, thanks Don.

[maverick23]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

The reality is that Eddie will solely care about the profit he can make.

It seems like DAZN were no longer as willing to shell out for fights/fighters that don’t generate a return. Hence no longer overpaying guys in the US and cutting the cord on shows in traditionally smaller boxing countries like Italy/Spain.

It seems Matchroom are now focusing partly on shows where they can generate a rights fee, like what was meant to happen in Japan.

I’m not sure what happened there but I’d imagine the rights fee/deposit wasn’t paid. Who knows though.

There’s a bit of talk they’ll be doing a show in Africa this year (Equatorial Guinea) and they’ve got pretty heavy involvement in all 3 Saudi shows this year. Plus Monaco, Mexico and I’d imagine another country or two.

I’d prefer they were doing more in the U.K. I’d still imagine they would have done more U.K. shows than any of the other promoters by the end of May but the quality needs to get better.

I am surprised they haven’t done more in Abu Dhabi though. Saying that I’m not sure they’ve got the depth to their stable to deliver big shows in their usual markets, now Saudi and have a couple in Abu Dhabi too.

Yep, good shout about the rights fee, he'll go anywhere that pays a fee to stage the fights it seems.

Yeah - as any promoter would/should as it shouldn’t mean the fighters inflated purses are being paid for by the fans.

Australia (Perth in particular) are paying rights fees for events with WWE and the Kambosos fight against Loma.

TKO (UFC/WWE) are doing loads of them at the moment.

[jwfg]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

He's promoting in the UK, US, Mexico and occasionally elsewhere. He's one of biggest promoters in the world, but, like always, some people have to focus on the negatives.

[maverick23]

showing my lack of knowledge - does a rights fee basically mean a third party/the venue pays you to hold a show there?

Exactly. Some do it for sports washing (Saudi). Some do it because they want to (Monte Carlo). Others see it as a way to boost tourism/their name/footfall to their casino (Caribe Royal, Perth, Abu Dhabi etc).

Tv/streaming platforms are, mostly, moving away from a loss making model so the promoters have to be more creative about where to get the money from.

[The_Don1]

I see the Matchroom Prizefighter tournament scheduled for 31 March in Japan has now been cancelled. No reasons given, Matchroom didn't even announce it themselves, it appears that they just fed the news to Matchroom friendly twitter accounts for them to report.

After the failure of Matchroom Spain and Italy, where they no longer promote, Matchroom Australia, where they did one show in October 2022 and didn't return, the Matchroom UAE Champion Series - which lasted for one fight card in November 2022 and wasn't mentioned since, is it safe to say their global adventures have been a disaster?

I feel this has correlated with the weakening of their fight cards, no stadium shows, empty arenas and a move to smaller venues this year.

I think it's about time for Eddie and co to accept this and focus on making their product stronger in the UK, which has been in decline for some time.

He's promoting in the UK, US, Mexico and occasionally elsewhere. He's one of biggest promoters in the world, but, like always, some people have to focus on the negatives.

Even the biggest Matchroom die hard can't fail to notice the decline of their product, I can't recall the last time they sold out an arena in the UK, so much so they moved to using smaller venues this year.

Have their US ventures been a roaring success? Maybe for the fighters who were massively overpaid in the early days.

It's a point worthy of discussion.

[SeanBrennan]

showing my lack of knowledge - does a rights fee basically mean a third party/the venue pays you to hold a show there?

Exactly. Some do it for sports washing (Saudi). Some do it because they want to (Monte Carlo). Others see it as a way to boost tourism/their name/footfall to their casino (Caribe Royal, Perth, Abu Dhabi etc).

Tv/streaming platforms are, mostly, moving away from a loss making model so the promoters have to be more creative about where to get the money from.

thanks Maverick.

[Spud]

Cancelled due to astronomical costs.

I going all over the world with WBSS and i wrongly presumed i was going to japan for the inoue final.

Costs were obscene

[margaret thatcher]

that sucks, was a good little tournament, although japan a bit odd for a middleweight event

[SeanBrennan]

that sucks, was a good little tournament, although japan a bit odd for a middleweight event

deffo a bit random, although weight-wise I do not know of any other Japanese fighters fighting at higher weights.
I hope it gets revived.

[cormack]

There is a new game in town called Saudi which has changed everything in a way that nobody else can compete with .
The fighters managers and promotors all want a slice of that dollar and you only have to look at eddie and fwank now almost brothers in arms as a result , abandoning previous rivalry and distain about working together .

[maverick23]

Cancelled due to astronomical costs.

I going all over the world with WBSS and i wrongly presumed i was going to japan for the inoue final.

Costs were obscene

Is that the actual reason this Matchroom show is off or just what you think?

[Spud]

Cancelled due to astronomical costs.

I going all over the world with WBSS and i wrongly presumed i was going to japan for the inoue final.

Costs were obscene

Is that the actual reason this Matchroom show is off or just what you think?

I honestly dont know but am willing to bet i am right.

[SeanBrennan]

interestingly the Polish card last night was down as Queensberry Polska

[SeanBrennan]

Cancelled due to astronomical costs.

I going all over the world with WBSS and i wrongly presumed i was going to japan for the inoue final.

Costs were obscene

Is that the actual reason this Matchroom show is off or just what you think?

I honestly dont know but am willing to bet i am right.

thanks Spud, is it just the case that it is super expensive putting a show on in Japan?

[maverick23]

Cancelled due to astronomical costs.

I going all over the world with WBSS and i wrongly presumed i was going to japan for the inoue final.

Costs were obscene

Is that the actual reason this Matchroom show is off or just what you think?

I honestly dont know but am willing to bet i am right.

I’d take the bet but there’s no way to be able to prove it as Matchroom aren’t going to come out and say what they were planning was too expensive.

I’d imagine it’s more likely that the rights fee for the show isn’t coming through.

[Spud]

Yeah i would go with that.

[1504017]

Is that the actual reason this Matchroom show is off or just what you think?

I honestly dont know but am willing to bet i am right.

thanks Spud, is it just the case that it is super expensive putting a show on in Japan?

In Japan, everything, literally everything is very expensive

[SeanBrennan]

I honestly dont know but am willing to bet i am right.

thanks Spud, is it just the case that it is super expensive putting a show on in Japan?

In Japan, everything, literally everything is very expensive

thanks. I'm not the best traveled, I class Hull as abroad as you have to pay a toll of £1.50 to get over Humber Bridge.