WBA Conundrum - Do what's right.

[NazNaci1]

'With Johnson's close 10 MD loss to Charles and exit from the MDT tournament, surely, given that it was a non title round and over 10 stanzas, the right thing to do is to still recognise Johnson as the rightful WBA Champion. That is the just and true decision and we also take umbrage with the Commission insinuating that Johnson was 'soundly defeated'.

'This was not the case at all. It was a close decision loss and one, if over 12, we were confident Mr Johnson would have prevailed. It would be harsh of the Commission to strip Johnson of his title, a title he has not lost in the ring', lamented Bob Stardust, the CEO of Betty Boo Promotions who was in Tokyo for the recent Inoue - Nery fight.

'Throughout boxing history, many, many Champions fought and lost non title bouts...did they lose their title? Was the title declared vacant? Answers to both are No'

'Archie Moore lost to Giulio Rinaldi, Griffith got blown away by Carter, Becerra lost to Eloy Sanchez...the list goes on. That said, I am confident the Commission will do what is right.'. Added Stardust.

[armageto]

Did you just break out a MLK quote for the Sim?

Johnson should be able to keep his belt. It was a Non-Title fight, so both champs would retain regardless of the outcome. To top it off, it was a close fight.

Granted the Sim took a break for a few years, but I don't see how we don't remember how we operated in past seasons. If titles were on the line, then belts would be unified. Titles weren't on the line, so both champs keep their belt. In the past, you could unify the belts in the MDT. For whatever reason, with a shorter season, some people didn't wany the belts to unify. What would be the plan on stripping Johnson, a tournament for the belt, further pushing unification down the line?

I don't see the issue with Johnson remaining champ. Not sure why we are adjusting rules on the fly.

[BoxBuzz]

What am I missing? Here are my answers/understandings.

NO titles have been unified during the MDT. One has been recovered. I think that is rather clear even if controversial.
If we don't like that....then next time we will do it differently. I thought this was already discussed, and made clear. And I understand it's not to everyone's liking. Which is why it is on the table for discussion next season.

Fair enough?

The fight being discussed here are two fellas facing off like common folks do. A 10 round fight. Somebody won somebody lost. No title.....and thus no 12 rounder.....once these two common men step out of the ring after this fight....they remain champions of their Sanctioning body. Which does make them uncommon again. lol.


If this is not what has taken place....I shall make it right.


I do trust the "fight card" that claims matches have been made. This week it had an error.... And it has been accounted for and apologized for. I hope we can be perfect from this point forward. That's the goal.

[gilgamesh]

For one thing the Million Dollar Tournament Fights by that stage of the Tournament shouldn't be 10 rounders, they should be 12 so lots of mistakes happening this go round on the running of it part, but I think we just have to take the good with the bad.

Mistakes will happen with the best of plans, let alone one that's as fly by night an operation as our Sim is.

If it's any difference to you. Whatever the case. Ezzard Charles will be happy to rematch Harold Johnson when the Tournament is over.

[BoxBuzz]

For one thing the Million Dollar Tournament Fights by that stage of the Tournament shouldn't be 10 rounders, they should be 12 so lots of mistakes happening this go round on the running of it part, but I think we just have to take the good with the bad.

Well according to me....and I'm the guy (running or ruining this) take your pick, they are and shall remain 10....every fight, every step of the way. So no mistake as far as I am aware.....this was the plan. So your "should be" choice of language is pretty subjective based on if you were ruining/running this I suppose.

Now, if a set of rules were published stating that these become 12 rounders at some point....I missed the memo. So if that's the case you have my apology. But they will be, shall be and truly are with my full intent..........10 rounds.

Now with that said....I don't mind changing this for next time....if enough feel that there should be a different approach. I like different. I myself am different. So there's that.

[gilgamesh]

I'd have to back track to the original formation of the Tournament, and the rules that were written up. I was more going off of memory of the way we ran it in years past.

[BoxBuzz]

I'd have to back track to the original formation of the Tournament, and the rules that were written up. I was more going off of memory of the way we ran it in years past.

May well have been different.....I'm going to make an effort to get buy in for rules and routines for the next season if a next season is desired.