Has the female boxing bubble burst?

[Controversial]

I can’t say female boxing has ever interested me but there seems to be a noticeable decline in the coverage it gets. I saw Ebanie Bridges on Twitter saying she’s not had any fight news for eight months. I don’t think there were any female fights on the Saudi cards either and female fighters seemed to be on podcasts fairly regular not too long ago whereas now they don’t. Has the interest just dried up?

[smiling assassin]

There was a post on this not to long ago mate. It’s the plus side of the Saudis investing heavily in boxing, they don’t pad the card for the sake of equality.

[Glass Joe]

I can’t say female boxing has ever interested me but there seems to be a noticeable decline in the coverage it gets. I saw Ebanie Bridges on Twitter saying she’s not had any fight news for eight months. I don’t think there were any female fights on the Saudi cards either and female fighters seemed to be on podcasts fairly regular not too long ago whereas now they don’t. Has the interest just dried up?

admin always move these topics to the woman section

they probably dont bring in the revenue to put in many fights now.

What happened to Jonas.

[Controversial]

There was a post on this not to long ago mate. It’s the plus side of the Saudis investing heavily in boxing, they don’t pad the card for the sake of equality.

Ah ok must’ve missed it, yes makes you wonder if the Saudi interest has affected things

[Controversial]

I can’t say female boxing has ever interested me but there seems to be a noticeable decline in the coverage it gets. I saw Ebanie Bridges on Twitter saying she’s not had any fight news for eight months. I don’t think there were any female fights on the Saudi cards either and female fighters seemed to be on podcasts fairly regular not too long ago whereas now they don’t. Has the interest just dried up?

admin always move these topics to the woman section

That might explain why I missed the previous post lol

[joshj909]

They need the next big star because, Skye Nicolson just isn't the same as Taylor or Serrano or even Jonas who are nearing the end of their careers. Mayer and Baumgartner got a lot of attention but neither are promoted to the level of Taylor or Serrano. Shields doesn't have any competition at her weightclass which is stopping her from becoming the star.

The skill level has definitely improved after the past decade so who knows who will arrive next.

[Controversial]

What happened to Jonas.

I didn’t realise she’s 40

[Controversial]

They need the next big star because, Skye Nicolson just isn't the same as Taylor or Serrano or even Jonas who are nearing the end of their careers. Mayer and Baumgartner got a lot of attention but neither are promoted to the level of Taylor or Serrano. Shields doesn't have any competition at her weightclass which is stopping her from becoming the star.

The skill level has definitely improved after the past decade so who knows who will arrive next.

Isn’t the problem that there just isn’t enough decent female fighters at the same weight to create a real interest, having one big star is ok but not if their opposition aren’t really at the same level. They need a few big stars.

[Glass Joe]

What happened to Jonas.

I didn’t realise she’s 40

yeah think she probably wants a few more big ones. Think Joe G said her purses are awful for what they should be or along them lines. but really if you arent box office fighter you probably stuggle to take home decent money. wasnt the all womans 02 a big loss for the promoter?

[TheLeprechaun]

They need the next big star because, Skye Nicolson just isn't the same as Taylor or Serrano or even Jonas who are nearing the end of their careers. Mayer and Baumgartner got a lot of attention but neither are promoted to the level of Taylor or Serrano. Shields doesn't have any competition at her weightclass which is stopping her from becoming the star.

The skill level has definitely improved after the past decade so who knows who will arrive next.

Skye Nicholson is the death knell for female boxing. An absolutely horrific fighter to watch. Running (not boxing) with pitter patter punches for the entire distance and then we have commentators trying to insult our intelligence and make us believe we are watching a prime Muhammad Ali in there. It's dire, piss poor stuff. Her last opponent didn't know how to throw a punch. There have just been too many dreadful female fights which have noticably drained the atmosphere from an arena and had me turning the channel. Not to say that male fights can't spring up some shockers to watch but it seems a given with most female fights. You know you have ten boring rounds ahead of you with at least one girl not knowing how to punch properly. Not interesting at all I'm afraid and I can't see it catching on. The Saudis have their own issues with women so I can't see them putting a female fight on one of their cards.

[JamesPhilips]

They need the next big star because, Skye Nicolson just isn't the same as Taylor or Serrano or even Jonas who are nearing the end of their careers. Mayer and Baumgartner got a lot of attention but neither are promoted to the level of Taylor or Serrano. Shields doesn't have any competition at her weightclass which is stopping her from becoming the star.

The skill level has definitely improved after the past decade so who knows who will arrive next.

Skye Nicholson is the death knell for female boxing. An absolutely horrific fighter to watch. Running (not boxing) with pitter patter punches for the entire distance and then we have commentators trying to insult our intelligence and make us believe we are watching a prime Muhammad Ali in there. It's dire, piss poor stuff. Her last opponent didn't know how to throw a punch. There have just been too many dreadful female fights which have noticably drained the atmosphere from an arena and had me turning the channel. Not to say that male fights can't spring up some shockers to watch but it seems a given with most female fights. You know you have ten boring rounds ahead of you with at least one girl not knowing how to punch properly. Not interesting at all I'm afraid and I can't see it catching on. The Saudis have their own issues with women so I can't see them putting a female fight on one of their cards.

Well put. When (if) the level of female boxing improves I would have no problem with one female fight. But considering the low quality and low number of female boxers it’s so easy to win a title as to be meaningless

[tigermoth87]

Yes

Same as women's football other female sports than tennis. Why would anyone want to waste their time watching inferior athletes? It's like passing up a steak in favour of a McDonald's.

A handful managed to be popular--like Katie Taylor. Until fans realised the division has about as much depth as a puddle.

The female sport experiment has been a failure.

[Controversial]

Yes

Same as women's football other female sports than tennis. Why would anyone want to waste their time watching inferior athletes? It's like passing up a steak in favour of a McDonald's.

A handful managed to be popular--like Katie Taylor. Until fans realised the division has about as much depth as a puddle.

The female sport experiment has been a failure.

I agree. I actually prefer watching women's tennis but I can't think of any other sport I would go out my way to watch. Lack of talent and depth is a big issue and that can apply to mens boxing sometimes, more so at the very lightest weights.

[JamesPhilips]

Yes

Same as women's football other female sports than tennis. Why would anyone want to waste their time watching inferior athletes? It's like passing up a steak in favour of a McDonald's.

A handful managed to be popular--like Katie Taylor. Until fans realised the division has about as much depth as a puddle.

The female sport experiment has been a failure.

Right. people want to see the best. And that will always be men

[tony1234]

Not sure why they put on women's bouts and make them out to be genuine world titles or something you can't miss ? Ebanie Bridges showed even getting your tits out in the end doesn't sell tickets and Shannon Courtney hyped as the next Tyson has disappeared without trace.
Maybe punters are just bored of these fights stinking the place out when they have paid to see something decent ?

[jameswilson]

I think a big rethink is needed on womens boxing. The weight divisions in particular, I think it's brainless to have them the exact same and it just contributes to how threadbare some of the divisions above 140 are. You have some women who are trying desperately to claw back recogntion by winning a World title or two and they are able to do it (or not in a few cases) by stepping up to Weltwerweight, then back down to 140, then to 154 etc etc.

The promoters are clearly being a bit tighter with who they back now as well. Hearn went a bit mad a few years back and there really doesn't look to be an heir to Taylor and Serrano (fair play on both they have earned millions by the sounds of things.) Cameron has the talent but not the fan pull. Jonas surely only has a few fights left. Baumgardner now has the drugs question hovering over her otherwise she may have been the next one given she actually scores knockdowns and KOs every now and then. Mayer has a long road back and is 34 and will likely traverse to commentary or a tv roll on ESPN. Skye Nicholson looks like shes in that awkward spot where she will never win a round and also never score a knockout victory despite having the beauty card on her side. And a lot of others are (sorry to say it) boring personalities who don't generate enough excitement in the ring.

[si7dog7]

I think a big rethink is needed on womens boxing. The weight divisions in particular, I think it's brainless to have them the exact same and it just contributes to how threadbare some of the divisions above 140 are. You have some women who are trying desperately to claw back recogntion by winning a World title or two and they are able to do it (or not in a few cases) by stepping up to Weltwerweight, then back down to 140, then to 154 etc etc.

The promoters are clearly being a bit tighter with who they back now as well. Hearn went a bit mad a few years back and there really doesn't look to be an heir to Taylor and Serrano (fair play on both they have earned millions by the sounds of things.) Cameron has the talent but not the fan pull. Jonas surely only has a few fights left. Baumgardner now has the drugs question hovering over her otherwise she may have been the next one given she actually scores knockdowns and KOs every now and then. Mayer has a long road back and is 34 and will likely traverse to commentary or a tv roll on ESPN. Skye Nicholson looks like shes in that awkward spot where she will never win a round and also never score a knockout victory despite having the beauty card on her side. And a lot of others are (sorry to say it) boring personalities who don't generate enough excitement in the ring.

Pretty much this.
Shame though that Mayer has to do so. Been robbed twice at least.
I’d only watch Serrano tbh. Then Jonas and Taylor. But all 3 are near the end.

[jameswilson]

I think a big rethink is needed on womens boxing. The weight divisions in particular, I think it's brainless to have them the exact same and it just contributes to how threadbare some of the divisions above 140 are. You have some women who are trying desperately to claw back recogntion by winning a World title or two and they are able to do it (or not in a few cases) by stepping up to Weltwerweight, then back down to 140, then to 154 etc etc.

The promoters are clearly being a bit tighter with who they back now as well. Hearn went a bit mad a few years back and there really doesn't look to be an heir to Taylor and Serrano (fair play on both they have earned millions by the sounds of things.) Cameron has the talent but not the fan pull. Jonas surely only has a few fights left. Baumgardner now has the drugs question hovering over her otherwise she may have been the next one given she actually scores knockdowns and KOs every now and then. Mayer has a long road back and is 34 and will likely traverse to commentary or a tv roll on ESPN. Skye Nicholson looks like shes in that awkward spot where she will never win a round and also never score a knockout victory despite having the beauty card on her side. And a lot of others are (sorry to say it) boring personalities who don't generate enough excitement in the ring.

Pretty much this.
Shame though that Mayer has to do so. Been robbed twice at least.
I’d only watch Serrano tbh. Then Jonas and Taylor. But all 3 are near the end.

I think I had her beating Jonas but not Baumgardner. Plus she was unbareable in the build up.

[margaret thatcher]

she had a 50/50, go either way fight with some french lady and got like a 100-89 decision, i dont feel bad for her

[veriton]

I seriously don't get the hate for Skye Nicholson, I really enjoy watching her box. She throws crisp and accurate shots, has excellent footwork and great timing and distance. She is also nice looking and a good talker, it shouldn't matter but it does.

If an argument against her is that she isn't seriously hurting people, then that's not something I'm interested seeing in women's boxing anyway.

[margaret thatcher]

I seriously don't get the hate for Skye Nicholson, I really enjoy watching her box. She throws crisp and accurate shots, has excellent footwork and great timing and distance. She is also nice looking and a good talker, it shouldn't matter but it does.

If an argument against her is that she isn't seriously hurting people, then that's not something I'm interested seeing in women's boxing anyway.

ya we went over that recently, no power, negative slappy style, no real track record of exciting fights or eye catching moments. doesnt step on the gas. you watch 1 round and youve seen it all. big wonder about why people may not enjoy that. it's not hate either, she's effective, just not a fan of it and i think it's pretty obvious why it might not be a style people love

she's a female ottke, with even less power and worse opposition. is it baffling why someone may not have liked to watch him either? i see absolutely 0 ways her boxing is more entertaining to watch than his was, at least he ocassionally had some highlight reel moments

[joshj909]

Yes

Same as women's football other female sports than tennis. Why would anyone want to waste their time watching inferior athletes? It's like passing up a steak in favour of a McDonald's.

A handful managed to be popular--like Katie Taylor. Until fans realised the division has about as much depth as a puddle.

The female sport experiment has been a failure.

Right. people want to see the best. And that will always be men

People watch non-league football which is not the best. People also watch regional and domestic level boxing because there can be competition there. I think what most people want is competition and excitement. Obviously higher skills lead to that but I'm sure people would rather watch Taylor vs Serrano 2 instead of Joyce vs Kash Ali for example.

[joshj909]

I think a big rethink is needed on womens boxing. The weight divisions in particular, I think it's brainless to have them the exact same and it just contributes to how threadbare some of the divisions above 140 are. You have some women who are trying desperately to claw back recogntion by winning a World title or two and they are able to do it (or not in a few cases) by stepping up to Weltwerweight, then back down to 140, then to 154 etc etc.

If the women's divisions got rid of the junior/super divisions they'd stand a much better chance of having legitimate and competitive fights at the top. Obviously the number of professional female boxers is on the up but it's nowhere near the level it was for the men's sport when these divisions were added.

UFC is a a rough example of how to do it to be honest. They started with one division then added a second. They tried another heaviest division but it didn't pay off so have all but scrapped it and added another division in the middle. Realistically, if they had 5 divisions it would include every female athlete in the sport and they would be more competitive than the boxing divisions.

[veriton]

I seriously don't get the hate for Skye Nicholson, I really enjoy watching her box. She throws crisp and accurate shots, has excellent footwork and great timing and distance. She is also nice looking and a good talker, it shouldn't matter but it does.

If an argument against her is that she isn't seriously hurting people, then that's not something I'm interested seeing in women's boxing anyway.

ya we went over that recently, no power, negative slappy style, no real track record of exciting fights or eye catching moments. doesnt step on the gas. you watch 1 round and youve seen it all. big wonder about why people may not enjoy that. it's not hate either, she's effective, just not a fan of it and i think it's pretty obvious why it might not be a style people love

she's a female ottke, with even less power and worse opposition. is it baffling why someone may not have liked to watch him either? i see absolutely 0 ways her boxing is more entertaining to watch than his was, at least he ocassionally had some highlight reel moments

I can't see any likeness to Ottke at all. If we're doing comparisons I'd go for someone like Lee Selby. Brilliant boxing brain with classic skills who easily dissects more blunt rivals.

I was more interested in her fight than Boots Ennis predictably pounding out Avenaseyan.

There's just no mystery to some of these bouts but hers usually have appeal

[margaret thatcher]

I seriously don't get the hate for Skye Nicholson, I really enjoy watching her box. She throws crisp and accurate shots, has excellent footwork and great timing and distance. She is also nice looking and a good talker, it shouldn't matter but it does.

If an argument against her is that she isn't seriously hurting people, then that's not something I'm interested seeing in women's boxing anyway.

ya we went over that recently, no power, negative slappy style, no real track record of exciting fights or eye catching moments. doesnt step on the gas. you watch 1 round and youve seen it all. big wonder about why people may not enjoy that. it's not hate either, she's effective, just not a fan of it and i think it's pretty obvious why it might not be a style people love

she's a female ottke, with even less power and worse opposition. is it baffling why someone may not have liked to watch him either? i see absolutely 0 ways her boxing is more entertaining to watch than his was, at least he ocassionally had some highlight reel moments

I can't see any likeness to Ottke at all. If we're doing comparisons I'd go for someone like Lee Selby. Brilliant boxing brain with classic skills who easily dissects more blunt rivals.

I was more interested in her fight than Boots Ennis predictably pounding out Avenaseyan.

There's just no mystery to some of these bouts but hers usually have appeal

her bout was just as predictable as his, except he got the job done much more explosively and saved us some time on a mismatch. her fights are some of the most predictable out there, not sure why anyone would raise that as a factor to favour her for

she's very very simialr to ottke. feather fisted slapper with a movement based style who doesnt exchange or really up the gears. 34-0 olympic medalist - what a genius! you should love him too. lee selby actually had some pop and could stand his ground and lay out guys with uppercuts and body shots close up. sky doesnt do that at all.