Who is the best promoter in history?

Who is the best promoter in history?

Tex Rickard
12
21%
Blinky Palermo
0
No votes
The London Cartel
1
2%
Don King
15
26%
Bob Arum
18
31%
Barry Hearn
1
2%
Edwin Hearn
5
9%
Big Turki
4
7%
Akihito Honda
0
No votes
Wanky
1
2%
MC Hammer
0
No votes
Oscar Dela Fishnets
1
2%
 
Total votes: 58

Boxing Prospect
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Boxing Prospect »

Definitely feel like Honda deserves a mention, almost no one has had a bad word about him, most of the others have worked with him, his longevity is up there with the longest of them. Not sure if he's the best but definitely deserves a mention, not many others have been in the business for 60 years.
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Post by coneye »

Suppose depends who you ask , if you ask Barry Hearn , he'll say its my boy Eddie , If you ask Eddie Hearn he'll say Me with my dad a close second , Ask old fish eyes he'll laugh and say its obvious is'nt it , i've been around for ever , and we just kicked Eddies arse 5-0 :lol:
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Post by coneye »

Mummery wrote: 10 Aug 2024, 10:01
coneye wrote: 10 Aug 2024, 09:51 Suppose depends who you ask , if you ask Barry Hearn , he'll say its my boy Eddie , If you ask Eddie Hearn he'll say Me with my dad a close second , Ask old fish eyes he'll laugh and say its obvious is'nt it , i've been around for ever , and we just kicked Eddies arse 5-0 :lol:
I’m just asking the forum mate :lol:

I never even put fish eyes in cos it sure as fück isn’t him.
Well in that case , i think regardless off what a terrible human being he apparantly was , Don King gave us some great great fights , .

Remember a quote i read in a book years ago think it was the black lights , about Billy Costello if i'm correct , (good chance i'm not though )

It went along the lines of some manager /trainer , saying DON kING, what can you say Don King is a lying motherf , dON kING wants to own every dollar ever printed , he will never have enough money , , Don King would rob his own mother for a dollar , but if i was a boxer who would i want to go with DON KING because he delivers ,

Course its a long time since i read it so someone else feel free to correct it
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by mickey1975 »

Don King.
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Post by handsofstone »

Gotta be Uncle Bob, for longevity alone, been at the top of the game since the 60s, even Don King's been pretty much irrelevant for the past 20 years
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by keithmoonhangover »

I'm going with Tex Rickard. An attendance of 135,000 for Dempsey-Tunney. No social media, no internet, no television.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

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Turki is only a good promoter as he doesn't care about money, I could be the best promoter if I had billions to burn and didn't care if I made a penny on my shows
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Frostieballs »

To be (unusually) fair to FW, if he isn’t on the list, neither of the Hearns should be.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Ben Shalom
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by joshj909 »

Depends from who's perspective. King maybe for the fans but I don't think the boxers would agree. Therefore, Arum probably when you consider the biggest fights he's put on and for how long he's been putting them on. I think he's probably getting on a bit though...
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Frostieballs »

P. T. Barnum.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by margaret thatcher »

arum's longevity is incredible, still kicking around , travelling the world, and a powerhouse in his 90s. still a gangster who doesn't give a f@ck
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Boxing Prospect »

Mummery wrote: 11 Aug 2024, 00:06
tony1234 wrote: 10 Aug 2024, 13:58 Turki is only a good promoter as he doesn't care about money, I could be the best promoter if I had billions to burn and didn't care if I made a penny on my shows
That’s the shite thing about boxing and its historical promoting, it’s more about those crooks making money than the fighters.

Turki pays what’s needed to get the fights done and makes the fighters fight who they should be fighting.

He’s good for boxing.


Arum, King, Palermo, Wanky etc are bad for boxing.
So Fury should have been fighting Ngganou, Joshua should have been fighting Wallin, Ngganou and Dubois, Crawford should have been fighting Madrimov, and Zhang should have been fighting Wilder?
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Post by Alba »

Mummery wrote: 10 Aug 2024, 07:51 I’ve missed a few out of course, because I reckon most on here won’t have heard of them.

I know Turki isn’t a promoter per se but for me he’s the top man in all of boxing. Without him we absolutely would never have had Usyk win the undisputed because Wank Warren would have lied for his man and fucked the whole thing up.

I can add others in if folk think I’ve genuinely missed someone they want to vote for.

Turki for me will go down in history as a great figure in boxing. I was sceptical at first but the guy just wants to see the best fight the best, same as the rest of us.
Pass the sick bucket
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Post by margaret thatcher »

love what turks done so far, but way too short a time in boxing to get this honour. its like comparing fighters with deep hall of fame boxing records spanning over a decade to someone who in a year or two has a couple of really good wins but no other fights ever

guys like arum and king were involved in making some legendary fights and have like 50 years up in the house. arum just had a world title card on last night with an arguable ko of the year. put the quality fights they made next to those turki has........no contest. turk has done excellent for his short time in though
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tony1234 wrote: 10 Aug 2024, 13:58 Turki is only a good promoter as he doesn't care about money, I could be the best promoter if I had billions to burn and didn't care if I made a penny on my shows
He has brought together some decent fights, but if you throw enough money at something...
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Post by mickey1975 »

If I remember correctly Goldstar promotions brought Turki on board. Fury and Spencer announced a groundbreaking deal and this board got so infuriated I even took a break from it it was that boring! Grown men posting several times a day "Fury v Ngannou isn't groundbreaking"!
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Giancarlo »

Turki is different to all the others in that he is simply the front man for a billion dollar sportwashing operation.

The others were actually real promoters. Crooks, of course, but legitimate promoters putting on fights and trying to make money out of the fight game.

I think W a r r e n, who dramatically changed the way boxing was run in the UK when he came on the scene, and the IBC of New York who had a stranglehold on championship boxing in the USA for several years ought to be on the list
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Boxing Prospect »

Mummery wrote: 11 Aug 2024, 00:45
Boxing Prospect wrote: 11 Aug 2024, 00:30
Mummery wrote: 11 Aug 2024, 00:06

That’s the shite thing about boxing and its historical promoting, it’s more about those crooks making money than the fighters.

Turki pays what’s needed to get the fights done and makes the fighters fight who they should be fighting.

He’s good for boxing.


Arum, King, Palermo, Wanky etc are bad for boxing.
So Fury should have been fighting Ngganou, Joshua should have been fighting Wallin, Ngganou and Dubois, Crawford should have been fighting Madrimov, and Zhang should have been fighting Wilder?
Who else could/should they have fought?

Ngannou gave Fury hell, made him look stupid. Joshua ironed him out and finished his boxing aspirations making himself a contender again after looking a shell of himself after Usyk humbled him.

Wallin, I agree with but he’s a common opponent with Fury, and he again elevated himself by disposing of him far easier than Fury.

Idiots had been touting Wilder as the hardest hitter in history, making Fury an ATG for going life and death with him. Zhang and Parker exposed that myth.
For Joshua any of the leading contenders - Hrgovic (unbeaten leading contender), Parker rematch (can he stop the man who went the distance with him?), Zhang (this had been teased by Eddie for years with talk about putting it on at the Bird's Nest), even a shot Wilder (just to give closure of the bout we SHOULD have had) - And whilst we can say Joshua Vs Wilder was the plan, it should have been done instead of allowed to marinate any longer. We all knew Wilder was limited, but there was a sense of danger facing him that Wallin never had, and the long backstory between the two would have sold it to casuals.

As for Crawford, Boots is the obvious fight (and whilst it's easy to say Boots just fought Avanesyan BOTH Boots and Crawford had been out of the ring for a year, there was time to work on making that a reality, or make a public offer to Charlo (especially after the Spence fight), . No one was asking for Crawford to face an Uzbekistani fighter that no one outside of the hardcore knew, this was reflected in the PPV flop and the pockets of empty seats in the crowd. Just like no one was asking for Crawford to jump from 147 to 168 for Canelo, well no one other than Turki.

Don't get me wrong Bud Vs Madrimov is, and was, a good fight, but it's not one anyone was clamouring for, especially not with a PPV price tag. Neither man can sell. Also for a top promoter, why the hell did he not put the fight in Omaha, pander to the fans and give him a homecoming after the Spence win, instead of putting him in a ring 1500 miles away.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by nobleart1978 »

The IBC were all mobsters, but having said that, they made sure all of the best boxers fought each other. They were, without doubt, dodgy fookers, but the fight game was a lot healthier under them than it is the alphabet boys who have kept the best fighters in each division from fighting eachother for nigh on fifty years now.

Under the IBC fights such as Conteh-Galindez, Pedroza-Sanchez and a whole host of other great matchups would have happened.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by emallini »

Gotta be Arum
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by tony1234 »

Harold Smith should be on the list if Turki is
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by si7dog7 »

Harry Grout was pretty good.
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

Post by Sammy Scaff »

Genuine question, who are the London Cartel?

Is it Duff/Barratt/Astaire et al?
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Re: Who is the best promoter in history?

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I’m going Panos Eliades.

Put on all those Lennox shows, including mammoth Transatlantic double headers!
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