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Ok, been thinking about how lucky we’ve been to witness some of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport and was thinking where does usyk lie in the atg of the sport , likewise where does he lie for fighters in the last 20 years.


So, let’s see your top 10s…. Okay last 20 years rules, , so yes providing said fighter successfully defended a meaningful (big 4 or ring / lineal) title after January 2005 then yes you can count their whole career… so Oscar De la Hoya as an example you can consider his whole career (defended wbc title in 2006) , Roy Jones Jnr is not eligible.

Just gonna start with some randoms! JC is the British fighter to consider, then PBF, Canelo, PAC, Crawford, Uysk, Loma, Ward, Beterbiev, Inoue.
Well there is 10 there, sure I have missed some, obv ODLH is worth a mention too, Hopkins, GGG a top 10 is going to be a real challenge

Morales, MAB

Katie Taylor, Natalie Jonas?

Aside from those mentioned…can also make a case for Mosley, Marquez, Chocolatito, Donaire, Cotto.

Despite having some great wins in this period, Winky Wright never made a successful world title defence in this period.

What an era

Manny Pacquiao has to be in there.

Coco wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 10:05 Katie Taylor, Natalie Jonas?

Who’s Natalie Jones?

NazNaci1 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 10:30 Manny Pacquiao has to be in there.

Has to be 2nd imo

Mayweather
Pacman
Marquez
Canelo
Lewis
Usyk
Cotto
Hopkins

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 11:38 Mayweather
Pacman
Marquez
Canelo
Lewis
Usyk
Cotto
Hopkins

Lewis not eligible

Usyk likely #1

Then I'd have a tier with Pac, Mayweather, Hopkins, GGG, Alvarez, Crawford, Loma, MAB, Calzaghe, Bet and Biv... Likely missed someone.

stujones wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 11:46

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 11:38 Mayweather
Pacman
Marquez
Canelo
Lewis
Usyk
Cotto
Hopkins

Lewis not eligible

ah gotcha, apologies

stujones wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 11:46

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 11:38 Mayweather
Pacman
Marquez
Canelo
Lewis
Usyk
Cotto
Hopkins

Lewis not eligible

I'll swap Lewis for Calzaghe then and forgot to add in Loma

We need a good think and do it properly, a top 10 will be tough, especially as there is nothing between so many of the fighters.
For me PBF is number 1, beat everyone, Canelo, Pac, Mosely, ODLH, JMM barely won a round

Coco wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 13:08 We need a good think and do it properly, a top 10 will be tough, especially as there is nothing between so many of the fighters.
For me PBF is number 1, beat everyone, Canelo, Pac, Mosely, ODLH, JMM barely won a round

good point, I've just listed ones that popped into my head.

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam has to be in there.

I miss Horses monthly rankings, don't think he has posted for a bit, hope he is ok

Richard Williams

Mayweather
Usyk
Crawford
Inoue
Pac
Canelo
Ward
Beterbiev
Bivol
Lomachenko

I think I’d have to have a few more of the older guard ahead of Loma. I think I would have dlh, Mosley, Hopkins and Marquez ahead of him. Not a dig at loma who is and was class, just accomplishments based.

Tank Davis of the current crop might also Sneek into a top 20.

It amazing era, I think all mentioned in this thread would make a top 100 of all time.

Coco wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 13:19 I miss Horses monthly rankings, don't think he has posted for a bit, hope he is ok

He even dropped at midnight on New Years eve. Martin Murray too high, Andy Lee not British.

veriton wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 13:10 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam has to be in there.

deffo P4P in Scrabble (if you could do names)

1 Usyk
2 Pacquaio
3 Mayweather
4 W Klitschko
5 Calzaghe
6 JM Marquez
7 Alvarez
8 Morales
9 Barrera
10 Lomachenko
11 Hopkins
12 Beterbiev
13 Inoue
14 Ward
15 Kovalev
16 Crawford
17 V Klitschko
18 Golovkin
19 S Martinez
20 Donaire

floyd #1 and pac #2

would have to look things over more to order them after that

ordsalloriginator wrote: ↑03 Jan 2025, 13:17 1 Usyk
2 Pacquaio
3 Mayweather
4 W Klitschko
5 Calzaghe
6 JM Marquez
7 Alvarez
8 Morales
9 Barrera
10 Lomachenko
11 Hopkins
12 Beterbiev
13 Inoue
14 Ward
15 Kovalev
16 Crawford
17 V Klitschko
18 Golovkin
19 S Martinez
20 Donaire

Sorry but I can’t see Vitali Klit in the top 20. Especially above Donaire or GGG.