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Clinton Woods

Posted: 02 Apr 2005, 12:21
by jomothepure
Has anyone heard anything about his plans? Is he just going to wait around for the winner of Griffen/Gonzalez? They're not fighting for another month, so it would be around July/August at the earliest for his mandatory?

Am I asking too much to think of a fairly keep-busy fight? Maybe even against someone like Barney? Would a fight with Tiozzo be coming from cuckoo kand?

Posted: 02 Apr 2005, 13:28
by stujones
The Light Heavyweight devision isn't that bad, I would like to see him establish himself as a champion before thinking of unification. I think he should fight a British LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT in his first voluntary defence. Barney, Oakey or Oboh would be good. Then he should fight his mandatory (either Griffin or Gonzales would provide a sturn test and would establish him as more than a "paper" champion). Then he should think about unification.

I think he beats Tiozzo, at 32 he should go for the big one in his 3rd defence.... The Johnson vs Tarver winner.

Posted: 04 Apr 2005, 05:27
by knockout
tiozzo is gonna fight Ulrich next.....

Woods could fight Barney whos stock rose rapidly after pushing Ulrich very close last week......

Posted: 04 Apr 2005, 06:14
by DavidPayne
I doubt very much they'll be taking on someone like Oboh for a voluntary.

Posted: 04 Apr 2005, 06:20
by stujones
DavidPayne wrote:I doubt very much they'll be taking on someone like Oboh for a voluntary.
Yep, but if he did it would show a sign of the confidence that he has. I don't know Oboh's promotional status but hasn't he appeared on Woods' bills in the recent past, making it an easy fight to arrange.

Posted: 04 Apr 2005, 07:08
by jamesmcdonnell
Hmm, nobody else has been keen to give Oboh a shot, so why should Clinton, that's what I can imagine them thinking, and I wouldn't blame him. Clinton is looking to cash in on his belt, I fail to see how a fight with Oboh is going to do that. Oboh may be highly regarded by some in boxing circles, and there might be a certain amount of Kudos to beating him, but he's not exactly a draw.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 06:26
by jomothepure
Another thought - If Tarver beats Johnson in the rematch, I doubt he'd be bothered with Woods. But might Johnson (assuming he doesn't go for a Tarver III) want Woods even more if he loses?

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 07:01
by dve3333
You would have to remember that Tarver - Johnson there is no title at stake and I would think the winner would see Woods as a an easy route to a title

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 07:02
by Graham Brett
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Hmm, nobody else has been keen to give Oboh a shot, so why should Clinton, that's what I can imagine them thinking, and I wouldn't blame him. Clinton is looking to cash in on his belt, I fail to see how a fight with Oboh is going to do that. Oboh may be highly regarded by some in boxing circles, and there might be a certain amount of Kudos to beating him, but he's not exactly a draw.
Oboh could give Woods all kinds of trouble.

Quick, strong, decent punch, durable and very awkward.

Good fighter, Oboh.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 07:20
by Bard of Boxrec
Agreed, Woods wood be Woodwinded by Oboe.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 08:29
by jab
Roy Jones was negotiating with Woods for a rematch. That is if Roy does decide to keep fighting.

Roy is shot and his glass chin is exposed. He lost his speed and reflexes and now he cant run away from punches like he used to. But he still figures he can whip Woods again. (the first fight was so one sided that he thinks he can do that again with certainty).

I think Roy has a very good chance to beat Woods again, but it is no longer a certain thing. If Roy slipped even more since his second ko loss, then Woods may give him a third ko defeat.

I think it is 50/50. Slightly favouring Roy. (ok, maybe 55/45 for Roy)

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 08:51
by nickd
Roy does not have a glass chin, he's just old now.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 10:29
by Graham Brett
Riddick Blowe wrote:Agreed, Woods wood be Woodwinded by Oboe.
Oh Dear :-?

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 10:35
by knockout
nickd wrote:Roy does not have a glass chin, he's just old now.
down 3 times in a 16 year pro career..... china chinned......

just like Ali, everyone said he had good reflexes but i have seen him fight (against Berbick) and he was nothing......dunno what all the fuss is about :roll:

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 10:58
by jamesmcdonnell
Graham Brett wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Hmm, nobody else has been keen to give Oboh a shot, so why should Clinton, that's what I can imagine them thinking, and I wouldn't blame him. Clinton is looking to cash in on his belt, I fail to see how a fight with Oboh is going to do that. Oboh may be highly regarded by some in boxing circles, and there might be a certain amount of Kudos to beating him, but he's not exactly a draw.
Oboh could give Woods all kinds of trouble.

Quick, strong, decent punch, durable and very awkward.

Good fighter, Oboh.
I've seen Oboh fight quite a few times, he's got talent, but he's not world class for me. He pushes his punches out too much. He's avoided for sure, as he's awkward, but I think Cliinton would outclass him.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 10:59
by jamesmcdonnell
jab wrote:Roy Jones was negotiating with Woods for a rematch. That is if Roy does decide to keep fighting.

Roy is shot and his glass chin is exposed. He lost his speed and reflexes and now he cant run away from punches like he used to. But he still figures he can whip Woods again. (the first fight was so one sided that he thinks he can do that again with certainty).

I think Roy has a very good chance to beat Woods again, but it is no longer a certain thing. If Roy slipped even more since his second ko loss, then Woods may give him a third ko defeat.

I think it is 50/50. Slightly favouring Roy. (ok, maybe 55/45 for Roy)
I don't think there were any negotiations. Woods' camp mentioned it as a possibility, and Jones said they hadn't discussed it. All he did was contact Woods' people to congratulate him on getting a title, nothing more.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 14:53
by dve3333
knockout wrote:
nickd wrote:Roy does not have a glass chin, he's just old now.
down 3 times in a 16 year pro career..... china chinned......

just like Ali, everyone said he had good reflexes but i have seen him fight (against Berbick) and he was nothing......dunno what all the fuss is about :roll:
Yes I hate when people ride roughshod over Jones and say he has a glass chin cos of his last two fights. When a style like his is based on reflexes then age can just catch up so quick and you get hit by shots you could easily dodge before. Jones coming down from Heavyweight just accelerated this I feel.

Posted: 11 Apr 2005, 16:55
by Bard of Boxrec
Graham Brett wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Agreed, Woods wood be Woodwinded by Oboe.
Oh Dear :-?
No, not oh dear. That was gold. That was gold.

Posted: 12 Apr 2005, 15:31
by ILikeBeer
I heard various rumours. One was that he was thinking of fighting Roy Jones Jr. Another was that he was considering a rematch with Glencoffe Johnson. I don't think Clinton could beat Johnson. He certainly didn't in his first two fights. Who knows with Jones after the recent losses?

Did anybody give any credit to that Calazaghe rumour?

Posted: 12 Apr 2005, 15:50
by stujones
I Still think Clinton CAN beat Johnson - he showed enough climpses that with the right approach (view his effort vs Ashley) he can win this fight.

Woods has impressed abroad with his performance vs Hoye - I was on a US forum and there was a few discussions about how good a fight Woods vs Garray would be.

I don't think it will be that financially rewarding, but what a cracking fight it would be - their styles would suit.

Posted: 20 Apr 2005, 02:43
by ILikeBeer
I didn't realise til after the fight that Hoye had come in such a strong favourite. I'd never heard of him before, but when Clinton Woods a few people on a few forums acted really shocked.

The general rule of thumb is if a fighter has an undefeated record, yet you've never heard of him, they aint that good and aint fought anyone.

Posted: 20 Apr 2005, 03:46
by Lenny
But Hoye had beaten people, a KO win against Richard Hall in 4 and a pts victory (albeit controversial) against Montell Griffin, added to the fact he obviously has knockout power was why he was favorite against Woods.

Posted: 02 May 2005, 06:50
by ILikeBeer
Maybe I am just not knowledgable enough. I'd never heard of him, so assumed that he wouldn't be that tough. I hadn't studied his record properly. Still, I was correct about him losing.

Posted: 04 May 2005, 03:40
by jomothepure
Gonzalez v Griffen tonight in the IBF LW eliminator. A Gonzalez UD for me. Either way, is the winner of this going to be Woods' next fight?