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Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 20:45
by goose 5
Would he have defeated Parker if he had a full training camp ?

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 20:51
by Ruthless-RKO
No

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:12
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Wtf hit him? That right looked like it missed in slo mo

I must be getting old

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:14
by margaret thatcher
i defo think he would've done better, he was massively out of shape even for his usually meaty standards, not to mention he was in ethopia and then flying literally the day before the flight. no way he couldve been fully prepared but id have gone with parker anyway

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:39
by Contendeh
I don’t think so.
Parker put him away in less than two rounds. If Bakole had done better I’d say maybe. He didn’t though.

There’ are four levels to the Heavy rankings

1- Usyk
2- Agit, DDD, Parker
3 AJ and Fury winner.
4- everyone else.
Should AJ and Fury not meet they are also here.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:47
by KiwiRider
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Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:48
by KiwiRider
It if went past 3 rounds and Bakole was puffing, then yes.
But to stop him so early before he was really even physically taxed means no amount of training camp would have changed the outcome.
Parker had him hitting air and whenever Bakole did land Parker was gone and out of range. Training camp doesn't fix that sort of gap in movement.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 22 Feb 2025, 21:53
by KiwiRider

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 00:36
by Jeff_lacy_ko
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 21:53
Wtf hit him? It looked like he missed

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 00:54
by margaret thatcher
on the slow mo you can see his head jolt a bit, defo not a clean shot but it was a big swing that landed in a vulnerable spot

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 00:54
by Perkin Warbeck

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 01:48
by KiwiRider
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 00:36
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 21:53
Wtf hit him? It looked like he missed
There was a flush right hand about 4 seconds before the equilibrium shot that snapped Bakole's head 90° and if you pause it right at the end of the arc Bakole's eyes are just all white. It sounded like a gunshot on the mic and I think that was the instigator shot. Parker isn't a one shot KO guy :lol:

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 02:30
by Evander
Bakole looked terrible

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 05:17
by DrDuke
Evander wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 02:30 Bakole looked terrible
Blobkole.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 05:21
by joshj909
He looked fat. No pressure. Lower work rate. Slow hands. You can say short notice all you like but why on earth was he so out of shape while not in camp.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 06:15
by Syntax Error
goose 5 wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 20:45 Would he have defeated Parker if he had a full training camp ?
In sparring, of course, but not in an actual contest.

Parker is more skilled, faster and more experienced.

Bakole has never fought anyone of Parker's calibre, except in sparring, of course.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 06:22
by Syntax Error
KiwiRider wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 01:48
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 00:36
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 21:53
Wtf hit him? It looked like he missed
There was a flush right hand about 4 seconds before the equilibrium shot that snapped Bakole's head 90° and if you pause it right at the end of the arc Bakole's eyes are just all white. It sounded like a gunshot on the mic and I think that was the instigator shot. Parker isn't a one shot KO guy :lol:
Agreed, that shot that caused Bakole to shake his head was the real killer.

That punch knocked the stuffing out of him and it was only a matter of time before a decent follow-up shot was going to poleaxe him.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 10:48
by tonyevs
Bakole has never fought anyone of Parker's calibre, except in sparring, of course.
In sparring it would have been Bakole knocking out Parker of course ...

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48
by RuudOEN84
What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 12:41
by Jeff_lacy_ko
RuudOEN84 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48 What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?
I wouldnt want to be on tv with a gut like that just based on my own vanity. Makes no sense to me either

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 12:46
by margaret thatcher
the fight with ajaba was still 3 months off - i doubt bakole was even in any serious training yet, hence the career high weight. and he wasnt even in saudi to weigh in with parker and was on a plane 4 hours flight away the day before, after flying 10+ hours not long before that

at the end of the fight he was all smiles and looking giddy to pose for photos

i think he got a nice fat payday and was just happy to be there, knowing full well that he was far from prepared

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 13:14
by Sendo Takeshi
RuudOEN84 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48 What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?
Paddy Pimblett does the same in MMA. In his fights, he looks absolutely shredded, and two weeks later, he's a fat fornicate who gains around 20 kg.

A 15–20 kg difference seems to happen a lot, and most heavyweights over there are fat fucks in general.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 14:32
by KiwiRider
Sendo Takeshi wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 13:14
RuudOEN84 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48 What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?
Paddy Pimblett does the same in MMA. In his fights, he looks absolutely shredded, and two weeks later, he's a fat fornicate who gains around 20 kg.

A 15–20 kg difference seems to happen a lot, and most heavyweights over there are fat fucks in general.
Not the top tier guys though.
I've not seen Joshua, Uysk, Parker, Dubois, Klitschko (even now) in bad shape.
The guys who do blob out don't tend to get extra holes punched in world championship belts, with a fluke Ruiz being a temporary exception.

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 15:37
by skanksta
RuudOEN84 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48 What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?

Re: Martin Bakole

Posted: 23 Feb 2025, 15:38
by skanksta
RuudOEN84 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:48 What I don't understand is that so many of those heavyweigths don't seem to have the discipline/lifestyle to stay in top shape through the year. They're supposed to be top-level athletes. I don't know any other sport where contenders just balloon up like that, maybe only professional darters. :-?
Even they could do with getting in shape - big money in darts these days and you're better at anything if you're fit.
Peter Ebdon proved that getting proper athlete-fit could make you a World Champ in Snooker ffs - for fighters it's unforgiveable. :maybe: