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12 rounds.

Actually, I was thinking about this fight the other day.

Guess, it depends on which version of Mercer shows up (as is often the case).

IMO, a specific timing of the fight also matters here.

Does it happen in 1991 or 1995?

Mercer deals with Old Goreman comfortably.

Foreman in a canter, Mercer would eat huge shots for 10 rounds. He’d have his moments, but lose 7-8 of 10 rounds against the immovable object that is George

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 00:48 Mercer deals with Old Goreman comfortably.

Like he did Jesse Ferguson?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 09:48

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 00:48 Mercer deals with Old Goreman comfortably.

Like he did Jesse Ferguson?

Not smart to pick a single lackluster performance. Go and count Old George's losses and desputable decisions.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:34

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 09:48

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 00:48 Mercer deals with Old Goreman comfortably.

Like he did Jesse Ferguson?

Not smart to pick a single lackluster performance. Go and count Old George's losses and desputable decisions.

Foreman's worst losses in the 90's were against Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. Mercer in his prime lost to a journeyman.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:36

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:34

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 09:48

Like he did Jesse Ferguson?

Not smart to pick a single lackluster performance. Go and count Old George's losses and desputable decisions.

Foreman's worst losses in the 90's were against Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. Mercer in his prime lost to a journeyman.

Foreman went life-and-death with Alex Stewart, deserved a loss against Axel Schulz and lost to Holyfield wider than Mercer.

Mercer won Morrison and had a close loss to Lewis.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:46

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:36

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:34

Not smart to pick a single lackluster performance. Go and count Old George's losses and desputable decisions.

Foreman's worst losses in the 90's were against Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. Mercer in his prime lost to a journeyman.

Foreman went life-and-death with Alex Stewart, deserved a loss against Axel Schulz and lost to Holyfield wider than Mercer.

Mercer won Morrison and had a close loss to Lewis.

Mercer also went life and death with Bert Cooper while Foreman dispatched him easily.

There results are kinda all over the place when it comes to common opponents.

I can't see Mercer getting by Big George easily. If it's 1991 I think Foreman wins. By the time we get to 1995 Mercer can probably outhustle George by then. Certainly by 1996 or later it's definitely Mercer.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:46

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:36

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:34

Not smart to pick a single lackluster performance. Go and count Old George's losses and desputable decisions.

Foreman's worst losses in the 90's were against Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. Mercer in his prime lost to a journeyman.

Foreman went life-and-death with Alex Stewart, deserved a loss against Axel Schulz and lost to Holyfield wider than Mercer.

Mercer won Morrison and had a close loss to Lewis.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

Les Norton wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 07:46 Foreman in a canter, Mercer would eat huge shots for 10 rounds. He’d have his moments, but lose 7-8 of 10 rounds against the immovable object that is George

Same here.

To clarify:I'm matching the best version of 1990's Foreman with the best version of Mercer from the 90's.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 12:56

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:46

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:36

Foreman's worst losses in the 90's were against Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. Mercer in his prime lost to a journeyman.

Foreman went life-and-death with Alex Stewart, deserved a loss against Axel Schulz and lost to Holyfield wider than Mercer.

Mercer won Morrison and had a close loss to Lewis.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

Look against whom lost Foreman and against whom he was awarded a win instead of a loss.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 23:00

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 12:56

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 11:46

Foreman went life-and-death with Alex Stewart, deserved a loss against Axel Schulz and lost to Holyfield wider than Mercer.

Mercer won Morrison and had a close loss to Lewis.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

Look against whom lost Foreman and against whom he was awarded a win instead of a loss.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 23:00

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 12:56

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

Look against whom lost Foreman and against whom he was awarded a win instead of a loss.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

He was pretty much shutout in that loss too.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 13:14

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 23:00

Look against whom lost Foreman and against whom he was awarded a win instead of a loss.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

He was pretty much shutout in that loss too.

It's strange how certain losses are forgiven.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 13:19

gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 13:14

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 05:09

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

He was pretty much shutout in that loss too.

It's strange how certain losses are forgiven.

It is also strange how Ferguson practically gave no effort to win the rematch. He won the first fight so convincingly you'd think he'd have felt confident against this dude, but instead he just came into the rematch willing to lose.

I guess it's that Sparring partner mentality or whatever.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 23:00

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025, 12:56

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

Look against whom lost Foreman and against whom he was awarded a win instead of a loss.

Mercer lost to Jesse Ferguson.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 13:24 It is also strange how Ferguson practically gave no effort to win the rematch. He won the first fight so convincingly you'd think he'd have felt confident against this dude, but instead he just came into the rematch willing to lose.

I guess it's that Sparring partner mentality or whatever.

He did his best to throw the first fight too.

wouter wrote: ↑29 Mar 2025, 12:31

gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Mar 2025, 13:24 It is also strange how Ferguson practically gave no effort to win the rematch. He won the first fight so convincingly you'd think he'd have felt confident against this dude, but instead he just came into the rematch willing to lose.

I guess it's that Sparring partner mentality or whatever.

He did his best to throw the first fight too.

How's that?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2025, 12:33How's that?

If I remember correctly, there were two rounds after which Ferguson was looking to quit but was talked into continuing by his corner. It was widely publicized after the fight that Mercer had tried to bribe Ferguson, to save his match with Riddick Bowe.

wouter wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 05:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2025, 12:33How's that?

If I remember correctly, there were two rounds after which Ferguson was looking to quit but was talked into continuing by his corner. It was widely publicized after the fight that Mercer had tried to bribe Ferguson, to save his match with Riddick Bowe.

It did kinda look like Mercer was talking in his ear a lot in moments.

George Foreman by split decision in a war. If Ray Mercer boxes like Tommy Morrison did, then, Mercer wins, but Mercer was not a boxer but an all-out warrior with a great chin. He had one of the greatest chins in heavyweight history.