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November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 10 Nov 2025, 16:00
by elmersalsa
A day like today it would be the 60th year anniversary of the great Sugar Ray Robinson's last professional fight. He lost by a ten round decision against upcoming contender Joey Archer of the Bronx, NY. The fight was held at Pittsburgh, PA at the Civic Arena.

Archer scored his 45th and last win of 46 fights. And was ready for world title contention for Dick Tiger's World Middleweight Crown.

It turned out to be Archer's last win of his boxing career. He lost his next 3 fights. One with top contender Don Fullmer, brother of the great Gene Fullmer and his two consecutive losses against the great Emile Griffith for Griffith's World Middleweight Crown in 1966 and 1967.

Not a big puncher, he had solid wins against Rubin "Hurricane" Carter (W10) and Dick Tiger also by decision. But, he was able to drop Robinson on the canvas to gain a convincing unanimous decision over the man the sports writer claim as "The Greatest Pound per Pound Fighter of All-time"

After 175 wins in almost 200 fights, and 110 knockout wins, the original Sugar Ray retired for good.

Your comments.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 10 Nov 2025, 17:23
by gilgamesh
It's crazy how even at the end of the line he was still fighting up and coming contenders, and always matched at or near the top of cards.

There'll never be another Sugar Ray Robinson or a career that resembles his i don't think. Not in our lifetimes anyway.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 11:11
by elmersalsa
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2025, 17:23 It's crazy how even at the end of the line he was still fighting up and coming contenders, and always matched at or near the top of cards.

There'll never be another Sugar Ray Robinson or a career that resembles his i don't think. Not in our lifetimes anyway.
To me, he was a great fighter but a little overrated. Henry Armstrong's resume impress me more

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 12:21
by Ambling Alp II
Very surprising that you brought up that you thought Robinson was overrated. :D
You start a thread on Robinson and then immediately start saying he is somehow overrated. Yet again.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 13:41
by gilgamesh
elmersalsa wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 11:11
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2025, 17:23 It's crazy how even at the end of the line he was still fighting up and coming contenders, and always matched at or near the top of cards.

There'll never be another Sugar Ray Robinson or a career that resembles his i don't think. Not in our lifetimes anyway.
To me, he was a great fighter but a little overrated. Henry Armstrong's resume impress me more
Cool. To me we don't need a thread anytime its the anniversary of some random happening in Boxing history, but that's me.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 13 Nov 2025, 11:49
by elmersalsa
Ambling Alp II wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 12:21 Very surprising that you brought up that you thought Robinson was overrated. :D
You start a thread on Robinson and then immediately start saying he is somehow overrated. Yet again.
Everybody got their own opinions. I don't think that Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer ever. Let alone the most complete boxer.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 13 Nov 2025, 20:21
by Ambling Alp II
It's fine to have an opinion. However, it's stupid to start up a thread about someone's last fight, and then immediately start saying the guy is overrated.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 13 Nov 2025, 21:00
by gilgamesh
Summary of the thread to this point.

Elmer: Ray Robinson, what a Legend. Today was the date of his final bout. Thoughts?

Me: Cool. He was indeed a Legend.

Elmer: well actually Henry Armstrong was more of a Legend.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Next time just make a thread about Henry Armstrong...or would you do that and then start saying he ain't as good as Sam Langford or something :lol:

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 14 Nov 2025, 12:39
by elmersalsa
Ambling Alp II wrote: 13 Nov 2025, 20:21 It's fine to have an opinion. However, it's stupid to start up a thread about someone's last fight, and then immediately start saying the guy is overrated.
That is not stupid. What rule do you go by? Making your own rules, now that's stupid as hell. It's a post about Sugar Ray Robinson

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 14 Nov 2025, 12:40
by elmersalsa
gilgamesh wrote: 13 Nov 2025, 21:00 Summary of the thread to this point.

Elmer: Ray Robinson, what a Legend. Today was the date of his final bout. Thoughts?

Me: Cool. He was indeed a Legend.

Elmer: well actually Henry Armstrong was more of a Legend.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Next time just make a thread about Henry Armstrong...or would you do that and then start saying he ain't as good as Sam Langford or something :lol:
What kind of stuff you're talking about? Are you making your own rules?

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 14 Nov 2025, 14:06
by gilgamesh
I was summing up the general flow of the thread since when you started it.

I don't know what the hell you're on about with the "making your own rules" nonsense.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 14 Nov 2025, 16:41
by elmersalsa
gilgamesh wrote: 14 Nov 2025, 14:06 I was summing up the general flow of the thread since when you started it.

I don't know what the hell you're on about with the "making your own rules" nonsense.
We are talking about Sugar Ray Robinson. Make it simple.

Re: November 10th, 1965: Sugar Ray's Last Fight

Posted: 14 Nov 2025, 18:13
by gilgamesh
Excuse the hell out of me good sir :lol: