Tony Canzoneri vs Jimmy Mcclarin

[zuru]

Did anyone see this fight?It was shown a couple of nights ago on the classic sports channel,and they both sucked.That was the 1st time I had seen either fighter,but i remember reading about what a good fighter Canzoneri was and he had been a 3 division champion.However I was really shocked to see him in action.The fight took place in 1936,and I have seen films of other supposed
greats,and for the most part,have always been disappointed.I was really impressed with Joe Louis's fights,but guys like Jack Johnson,and honestly even the greatest of them all(?) Sugar Ray Robinson,and unless there is a hidden secret,I have seen many of the later years fighters,that I think would best most of these fellows.These are just my thoughts,but I wondered am I the only one who thinks this?take care,
zuru

[zuru]

Did anyone see this fight?It was shown a couple of nights ago on the classic sports channel,and they both sucked.That was the 1st time I had seen either fighter,but i remember reading about what a good fighter Canzoneri was and he had been a 3 division champion.However I was really shocked to see him in action.The fight took place in 1936,and I have seen films of other supposed
greats,and for the most part,have always been disappointed.I was really impressed with Joe Louis's fights,but guys like Jack Johnson,and honestly even the greatest of them all(?) Sugar Ray Robinson,and unless there is a hidden secret,I have seen many of the later years fighters,that I think would best most of these fellows.These are just my thoughts,but I wondered am I the only one who thinks this?take care,
zuru

I agree with you to a certain point. The way I look at it is, how would those boxers do with the training techniques they have now? Thats the way I see it. But I understand what you're saying and aggree, but not 100 percent.

You're right,don't get me wrong,they deserve credit for being the best,or among the best of their era,and with today's advancements,would probably surely be much better fighters,it was just almost comical to see,and remember reading about them,thinking "Boy,some of today's trialhorses,would have probably been considered "great" back then".Take care,
zuru

[crooked nose]

Canzoneri was at the end of his career vs. McLarnin. See any of the three McLarnin-Ross bouts for a show of great skill from that era.
I don't think the fighters were inferior back then. Some were just very raw and learned through experience. I think they outdo today's fighters in sheer toughness, but many did lack real polish. There are exceptions, like some already mentioned. Add names like Benny Leonard, Archie Moore, Kid Gavilan, Henry Armstrong - those are all-time greats worth watching.

[Senya13]

There's some short footage of welter SRR available from collectors, such as
05.02.1946 Tony Riccio W-TKO4 (1 min)
27.02.1946 Cliff Beckett W-KO4 (HL)
04.03.1946 Sammy Angott W-UD10 (6 min)

also weight slightly above welter, but at the time he was a welter champ and retained the title in the very next bout (the infamous Doyle bout)
16.05.1947 Georgie Abrams W-SD10 (12 min)