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Oiky wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 17:54 Proper shithouse behaviour that

Something must be eating him up inside

Always thought he was alright, the man's obviously a complete fool.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 20:05 not to be cliche, but really do wonder about brain damage. cte and trauamtic brain injuries can really transform people and make them much more volatile.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 18:59

Oiky wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 17:54 Proper shithouse behaviour that

Something must be eating him up inside

Always thought he was alright, the man's obviously a complete fool.

Ex boxers can be prone to violence after retirement . The whole CTE thing isn't just slurring and forgetting.

Oiky wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 03:39

KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 18:59

Oiky wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 17:54 Proper shithouse behaviour that

Something must be eating him up inside

Always thought he was alright, the man's obviously a complete fool.

Ex boxers can be prone to violence after retirement . The whole CTE thing isn't just slurring and forgetting.

That is true, and im surprised his defence didn't go down that route instead of the gym owner doing bits for the community spiel

Something about head trauma damaging the frontal lobe

stujones wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 07:35 Obviously it has been a while since John was last in the public spotlight through boxing and I have not followed his post boxing career. In addition to the comments regarding head shots in a tough career - I also wonder about some fighters particularly with a come forward style and the accolades of being super tough and when they get pushed backed themselves and stopped - they are often not the same fighter again and you do wonder what it does for them psychologically during and post career. Probably since being young kids they have been pigeoned holed and championed for their toughness and I think when they get "out toughed" it is incredibly hard for them mentally both in terms of the their career and out of the ring - it is part of their identity.

I struggle to think of anyone really with that style who seemed to ever be the same fighter after they were stopped or also had great mental health post career. I guess in terms of a career, Dereck Chisora earned more money post David Haye exposing him than after.

Coco wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 10:16 Plenty of ex fighters don't knock the missus about

veriton wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 11:06

stujones wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 07:35 Obviously it has been a while since John was last in the public spotlight through boxing and I have not followed his post boxing career. In addition to the comments regarding head shots in a tough career - I also wonder about some fighters particularly with a come forward style and the accolades of being super tough and when they get pushed backed themselves and stopped - they are often not the same fighter again and you do wonder what it does for them psychologically during and post career. Probably since being young kids they have been pigeoned holed and championed for their toughness and I think when they get "out toughed" it is incredibly hard for them mentally both in terms of the their career and out of the ring - it is part of their identity.

I struggle to think of anyone really with that style who seemed to ever be the same fighter after they were stopped or also had great mental health post career. I guess in terms of a career, Dereck Chisora earned more money post David Haye exposing him than after.

Pacquiao and Barrera have done ok.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 11:26

Coco wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 10:16 Plenty of ex fighters don't knock the missus about

1,000,000,000% this,

Oiky wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 17:54 Proper shithouse behaviour that

Something must be eating him up inside

Always thought he was alright, the man's obviously a complete fool.

stujones wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 11:28

veriton wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 11:06

stujones wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 07:35 Obviously it has been a while since John was last in the public spotlight through boxing and I have not followed his post boxing career. In addition to the comments regarding head shots in a tough career - I also wonder about some fighters particularly with a come forward style and the accolades of being super tough and when they get pushed backed themselves and stopped - they are often not the same fighter again and you do wonder what it does for them psychologically during and post career. Probably since being young kids they have been pigeoned holed and championed for their toughness and I think when they get "out toughed" it is incredibly hard for them mentally both in terms of the their career and out of the ring - it is part of their identity.

I struggle to think of anyone really with that style who seemed to ever be the same fighter after they were stopped or also had great mental health post career. I guess in terms of a career, Dereck Chisora earned more money post David Haye exposing him than after.

Pacquiao and Barrera have done ok.

Neither of whom I would describe as their biggest strength being their strength. Barrera especially was a slick, skilled defence boxer. Pacquiao - yes was aggressive - but his speed was the key asset. Indeed though aside from a freak one punch KO in a fight he was dominating - I cannot remember a time where Manny was forced to change approach and go on the back foot. He lost decisively vs Mayweather, but he didn't get "outstrengthed".

People with the style of John Murray, Ricky Hatton and even Mike Tyson. If they didn't come forward and "be first" they were not effective at all. With those three you know - get them on the back foot and they are beaten. Easier said than done though.

Steve Robinson and Paul Hodkinson would be two though - in terms of their fighting career neither were the same after they were essentially "bullied onto the back foot" by opponents - but in terms of life after boxing - Steve Robinson is seemingingly in a good place and I hope Hokko is also.

You knew when Robinson started going on the back foot vs Naz - his fight was done, same with Hatton, same with Hokko, Murray and Tyson.