BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 24(15) 0 0 - next fight: 23.05.2026 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Rico Verhoeven - 1(1) 0 0 - (unranked)

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Agit Kabayel - 27(19) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Fabio Wardley - 19(18) 1 1 - next fight: TBA

4 . ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 36(24) 4(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Daniel Dubois - 23(22) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Efe Ajagba - 21(15) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 35(24) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

8. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgovic - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 16.05.2026 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง David Allen - 25(20) 8(4) 2 - (Boxrec's #74)

9. ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Justis Huni - 13(7) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Moses Itauma - 14(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.05.2026 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Richard Torrez Jr. - 14(12) 0 0 - (#12)

12. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Richard Torrez Jr. - 14(12) 0 0 - next fight: 23.05.2026 vs. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - (#9)

13. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 45(43) 4(3) 1 - next fight: TBA

14. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Richard Riakporhe - 20(16) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Guido Vianello - 14(12) 3(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

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Question: How is the ranking affected after Dubois TKOโ€™d Wardley to win the WBO title?
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Two votes.

One for each please.

I will only count votes from the poll.

So make sure you vote in poll.

If you want Wardley lower than #8, then comment.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by joshj909 »

Dubois up to 2
Wardley should be up to 3

Kabayel is sitting on wins which aren't aging well while Dubois and Wardley have been out beating guys.

My current rankings:
1. Usyk
2. Dubois
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Kabayel
6. Ajagba
7. Torrez
8. Wilder
9. Riakporhe
10. Huni
11. Fury
12. Vianello
13. Itauma
14. Hrgovic
15. Miller
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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joshj909 wrote: โ†‘09 May 2026, 19:45
1. Usyk
2. Dubois
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Kabayel
6. Ajagba
7. Torrez
8. Wilder
9. Riakporhe
10. Huni
11. Fury
12. Vianello
13. Chisora
14. Itauma
15. Hrgovic
No Joshua no Fury
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Evander wrote: โ†‘09 May 2026, 23:50
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘09 May 2026, 19:45
1. Usyk
2. Dubois
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Kabayel
6. Ajagba
7. Torrez
8. Wilder
9. Riakporhe
10. Huni
11. Fury
12. Vianello
13. Chisora
14. Itauma
15. Hrgovic
No Joshua no Fury
He has fury
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Evander wrote: โ†‘09 May 2026, 23:50
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘09 May 2026, 19:45
1. Usyk
2. Dubois
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Kabayel
6. Ajagba
7. Torrez
8. Wilder
9. Riakporhe
10. Huni
11. Fury
12. Vianello
13. Chisora
14. Itauma
15. Hrgovic
No Joshua no Fury
Got Fury, Joshua is basically inactive in my opinion as he's not won a fight against a proper boxer since 2023
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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I think 364 days Wardley will be out of the ratings. I don't see him coming back anytime soon after that beating
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by Perkin Warbeck »

Dubois up to #4
Wardley down to #6
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Champion: Oleksandr Usyk
1. Kabayel
2. Fury
3. Dubois
4. Wardley
5. Parker
6. Zhang
7. Ajagba
8. Itauma
9. Hrgovic
10. Bakole
11. Torrez
12. Huni
13. Vianello
14. Wilder
15. Gassiev
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Dubois to #3
Wardley to #9
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by Sendo Takeshi »

Dubois to #2.
Wardley to #4.

So my ranking would be something like this:
#1 Usyk
#2 Dubois
#3 Kabayel
#4 Wardley
#5 Parker

AJ and Fury need to stop taking exhibitions or stay-busy fights, before I'll even consider granting them a spot in my prestigious Top 5.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Wardley may as well be dropped out.


Can anyone see him having a fight for the remainder of the year? Or next 12 months?
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘10 May 2026, 16:39 Wardley may as well be dropped out.


Can anyone see him having a fight for the remainder of the year? Or next 12 months?
He doesn't need one after the run he's been on and the punishment he's taken in his last 5 or so fights but he also seems like a workaholic who would get itchy feet if he was just sat around on a beach for 12 months. I think he fights late this year or early next year.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘10 May 2026, 16:39 Wardley may as well be dropped out.


Can anyone see him having a fight for the remainder of the year? Or next 12 months?
You get dropped after you go inactive for a year not beforโ€ฆ. (Unless you anounce retirment)โ€ฆ

Wardly should absolutely not fight this year. And he shouldent fight a top 50 any time in the next 13 monthsโ€ฆ but rankings look back not fowards.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by whatashambles »

Sendo Takeshi wrote: โ†‘10 May 2026, 15:10 Dubois to #2.
Wardley to #4.

So my ranking would be something like this:
#1 Usyk
#2 Dubois
#3 Kabayel
#4 Wardley
#5 Parker

AJ and Fury need to stop taking exhibitions or stay-busy fights, before I'll even consider granting them a spot in my prestigious Top 5.
Spot on.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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If Sanchez loses next week, have Kabayel's once impressive wins aged kinda badly? Not awfully but could he went from being an obvious number 2 in the division to being 3-5. His inactivity certainly doesn't help but:

Sanchez - IF he loses to Torrez then how good of a win was that really for him to deserve a title shot or is Torrez then top 3?

Makhmudov - Vianello stopped him in similar fashion. Is Vianello top 3?

Zhang - Also lost to Parker who lost to Wardley who lost to Dubois. He's also not fought since and is borderline retired with maybe one cash out fight left in him.

He hasn't added to these wins at all. I think he's been badly guided as he could've made millions since the last of these fights but has instead sat on his interim belt waiting for a shot at the king.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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you're only as good as the win at the time.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 07:15 you're only as good as the win at the time.
I view it almost the opposite as that. If someone gets exposed you can look at wins with greater insight and data without a hype train or "what if's". You can absolutely give credit for taking someone on at the time but some wins age gracefully, some do not. Same with losses.

Take a hypothetical situation involving Itauma for example. If Franklin beat him everyone would say how great it was of a win and he's top 10-15 but if Itauma then lost to several regional level guys the win wont look as good for Franklin who just exposed a hype train. Likewise, Itauma beating Franklin is an ok with but nothing spectacular, but what if Franklin beats Wardley then Torrez in his next two fights. We would change our view of the win Itauma had over him to being actually quite impressive.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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As of stands..

Dubois moves to #2

Wardley moves to #6

Wardley has less votes.. so some have voted for DDD but not Wardley.. tut tut :shame:
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:25 As of stands..

Dubois moves to #2

Wardley moves to #6

Wardley has less votes.. so some have voted for DDD but not Wardley.. tut tut :shame:
I don't see a world where Wardley should be below his most recent win who hasn't won a fight since.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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joshj909 wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:50
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:25 As of stands..

Dubois moves to #2

Wardley moves to #6

Wardley has less votes.. so some have voted for DDD but not Wardley.. tut tut :shame:
I don't see a world where Wardley should be below his most recent win who hasn't won a fight since.
I think some places have removed Parker for time being, based on his failed test. we didn't vote him out
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by tiny_acres »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 10:07
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:50
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:25 As of stands..

Dubois moves to #2

Wardley moves to #6

Wardley has less votes.. so some have voted for DDD but not Wardley.. tut tut :shame:
I don't see a world where Wardley should be below his most recent win who hasn't won a fight since.
I think some places have removed Parker for time being, based on his failed test. we didn't vote him out
I was going to start a thread if Parker is going to be suspended or not. It's been I think 6 months since the dirty test and still no response on his suspension.
Is he active or not???
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

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tiny_acres wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 12:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 10:07
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘11 May 2026, 09:50

I don't see a world where Wardley should be below his most recent win who hasn't won a fight since.
I think some places have removed Parker for time being, based on his failed test. we didn't vote him out
I was going to start a thread if Parker is going to be suspended or not. It's been I think 6 months since the dirty test and still no response on his suspension.
Is he active or not???
I wouldn't be surprised if he's conveniently inactive for 12, 18 or 24 months but without a word mentioned. Let's be honest though, it was only coke which he consumed in the days prior which is the dumbest anti-doping failure out there for a professional boxer. Hopefully he gets told to sort out his addiction and gets a small penalty.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by gregregegg »

Recreational drugs should be a fine.

If itโ€™s a 6 month backdated ban then sureโ€ฆ. Litraly nothing. 12 months would be sad. 2 years plus would be a terrible injustice.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wardley / Dubois

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

As it stands:

Dubois โ†’ #2
Wardley โ†’ #6 or #5
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