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HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30
by forcefraser
Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 11:41
by Controversial
forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
I think it’s always been a thing

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 11:44
by MPW
Controversial wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:41
forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
I think it’s always been a thing
I, too, think it's always been a thing, but in today's society there are so many more outlets for it to take place.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 11:57
by JamesPhilips
forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
A host of Ingle fighters were hyped. Khaliq Shaffique. Steve something. George Collins too

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 11:58
by jameswilson
It’s one of those things that’s to do with how a prospect is built. We’ve had some guys who were offensively unbelievable but history tells us there is always a guy out there who can extend them, nobody wins every fight by early KO. Thus until you’ve seen someone able to do it over the distance against a guy who doesn’t get hurt by their shots then don’t buy into anything.

I think Bruno was massively hyped as well before he got extended and beaten.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 12:06
by mickey1975
The hype derailed Moses in a different way. From 10-0 it wasn’t doable financially to put him on more than twice a year.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 16:14
by overhand_right
It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 16:25
by rd350lc
Surely the large amounts of money to be made have had a big influence on this nowadays.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 17:42
by forcefraser
Riddick Bowie wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 16:14 It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.
True, he did put up a brave effort against Holmes as well to be fair, albeit outclassed.

I'll replace him with Pele Reid , Frankie Gavin and Tony Agoggo

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 17:53
by KiwiRider
David Price earned some of his hype because of his amateur career and his sheer size. Everyone thought when he turned over to the pros he would be successful.
Turns out the lighter gloves and fighting more than three rounds didn't suit him. He was often winning the first three rounds (except for the Teper fight)
It happens :maybe:

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 18:52
by Taansend
Anyone remember Pele Reid :OhYes:

"As a child he fought Pit bulls in actual f*cking pits. He was literally in a pit full of pit bulls"

Re: HYPE

Posted: 30 Aug 2026, 21:02
by Finkel
mickey1975 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 12:06 The hype derailed Moses in a different way. From 10-0 it wasn’t doable financially to put him on more than twice a year.
Great observation. Criminally inactive for a young fighter who was pulled from the amateur system early

Wilder had 30 come up fights. A guy with far less talent who held the WBC belt (hostage) for years. Tyson had 15 in his first year (and his gym sessions looked insane)

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01
by gilgamesh
I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.

David Reid you could say was a case of too much too soon, but in his case he took a serious beating from Trinidad when he stepped up

Duane Bobick and Gerry Cooney never quite lived up to everyone's hopes and expectations for them.

Donald Curry was to be the 2nd coming of Sugar Ray Leonard

Some of those guys reached a higher level than the others, but all fell short of what everyone originally thought or hoped for their talent. Curry really had a decent career if you're not trying to make him another Sugar Ray, and just accept that he was a good fighter, not a great one.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 02:29
by jimb0d
Roman Greenberg was super hyped on secondsout for years but never really made an impact.

Mike Perez got very hyped as well when he landed in UK but then didn't kick on.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 03:50
by MasterG
The hype is on with Johnny Fisher.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 04:10
by gp.
MasterG wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 03:50 The hype is on with Johnny Fisher.
Was, surely. No offence to Dave Allen, but you can't overhype anyone who has already lost to Dave Allen.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 04:17
by SeanBrennan
Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 04:19
by gp.
Riddick Bowie wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 16:14 It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.
Also, if you finish your career with only 3 losses, against Holmes, Spinks and Foreman, I don't know if that's the same thing as losing on points to Martin Rogan.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 04:30
by golden_labrador
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:17 Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:
even I knew this was going to be a short ride but it was fun along the way. t'was the pandemic

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 15:55
by Steveh583
the biggest hype job of all time was Francisco “Panchito” Bojado

what was that fighter that was hyped for a minute who beat jimmy Vincent but didn't get the nod.

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 16:07
by SeanBrennan
golden_labrador wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:30
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:17 Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:
even I knew this was going to be a short ride but it was fun along the way. t'was the pandemic
Twas indeed

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26
by Taansend
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 23:06
by gilgamesh
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 23:25
by Taansend
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:06
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name
He's still fighting

Re: HYPE

Posted: 31 Aug 2026, 23:52
by gilgamesh
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:25
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:06
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26

He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name
He's still fighting
Any day now that guy is gonna live up to the hype :OhYes: