1990's Heavyweight Top 10

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 05 Jun 2005, 12:22

Yeah I know, this topic sucks, but it's a quiet Sunday afternoon. Just in case anyone does care:

01. Lennox Lewis
02. Evander Holyfield
03. Riddick Bowe
04. George Foreman
05. Michael Moorer
06. Oliver McCall
07. Ray Mercer
08. Mike Tyson
09. Tommy Morrison
10. Razor Ruddock

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 05 Jun 2005, 12:50

Good list, although putting Holyfield above Bowe is hard to do.

Yes Holyfield had a more illutrious career, but Bowe beat him twice & KO'd him when he was still relatively young at 33. It's a tough one to call.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 05 Jun 2005, 12:56

Syntax Error wrote:Good list, although putting Holyfield above Bowe is hard to do.

It's a difficult one because Bowe did win 2 of their 3 encounters. My problem with Bowe is that of the other 9 fighters in the list he only fought Holyfield, whereas Evander himself managed to face 6 of the other guys, and beat 5.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 05 Jun 2005, 13:18

Heres my list:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Riddick Bowe
3. Evander Hoylfield
4. Mike tyson- if this was prime tyson, he would beat all of them.
5. Mike Moorer
6. Oliver Mccall
7. George FOreman- got lucky to beat moorer, lost to morrison and holyfield
8. Ray Mercer-
9. TOmmy Morrison - glass jaw
10. Razor Ruddock- should have won a title in the 80's

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 05 Jun 2005, 14:06

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:Heres my list:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Riddick Bowe
3. Evander Hoylfield
4. Mike tyson- if this was prime tyson, he would beat all of them.
5. Mike Moorer
6. Oliver Mccall
7. George FOreman- got lucky to beat moorer, lost to morrison and holyfield
8. Ray Mercer-
9. TOmmy Morrison - glass jaw
10. Razor Ruddock- should have won a title in the 80's

How does the 1990's Tyson get above Moorer, McCall and Foreman?

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 05 Jun 2005, 16:05

Chopping Right wrote:
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:Heres my list:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Riddick Bowe
3. Evander Hoylfield
4. Mike tyson- if this was prime tyson, he would beat all of them.
5. Mike Moorer
6. Oliver Mccall
7. George FOreman- got lucky to beat moorer, lost to morrison and holyfield
8. Ray Mercer-
9. TOmmy Morrison - glass jaw
10. Razor Ruddock- should have won a title in the 80's
How does the 1990's Tyson get above Moorer, McCall and Foreman?

He crushed Bruno - A man who had given lewis hell and beat McCall.

McCall was a Crackhead with one noteable victory in the 90's.

Foreman and tyson is debatable, and Moorer as well i guess.

But Tyson wins over Ruddock, Tillman and Bruno keep him above McCall.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 06 Jun 2005, 06:25

The_Power wrote:He crushed Bruno - A man who had given lewis hell and beat McCall.

McCall was a Crackhead with one noteable victory in the 90's.

Foreman and tyson is debatable, and Moorer as well i guess.

But Tyson wins over Ruddock, Tillman and Bruno keep him above McCall.

Fair dinkum, not sure the win over Tillman means anything but he did indeed beat a peak Ruddock and Bruno.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 06 Jun 2005, 08:29

Chopping Right wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:Good list, although putting Holyfield above Bowe is hard to do.
It's a difficult one because Bowe did win 2 of their 3 encounters. My problem with Bowe is that of the other 9 fighters in the list he only fought Holyfield, whereas Evander himself managed to face 6 of the other guys, and beat 5.

Good points, I can't argue with that.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:06

Based on performances in the 90s or performances to date of heavies that fought in the 90s, or were champs or contenders in the 90s?

Based on performances in the 90s I'm not so sure, but my ratings for the fighters of that generation:

1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Tyson
4. Bowe
5. Moorer
6. Foreman
7. Bruno
8. McCall
9. Mercer
10. Morrison

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 09 Jun 2005, 12:03

jezzamundo wrote:Based on performances in the 90s or performances to date of heavies that fought in the 90s, or were champs or contenders in the 90s?

Based on performances in the 90s I'm not so sure, but my ratings for the fighters of that generation:

1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Tyson
4. Bowe
5. Moorer
6. Foreman
7. Bruno
8. McCall
9. Mercer
10. Morrison

Tyson above Bowe???

Professor X · Post by **Professor X** » 11 Jun 2005, 06:23

1. Holyfield -history in the making-
1a. Lewis
3. Bowe -'dont give a shit if the younger, bigger Bowe timed it just right against old Hoyfield...once Holyfield took his belts back, in a fight that really mattered, Bowe was never (WBA, WBC or IBF) champion again-
4. Foreman- just because '91 Foreman could have KO'ed any nineties heavyweight except for'91 Holyfield-
5. Moorer -greatest counterpuching heavyweight of the '90s, after Holyfield-
6. Mercer
7. Ibeabuchi -I know he was never champion, but...-
8. Tyson -a phucking disgrace to the sport...boxing's popularity is at an all-time low due in no small part to Mike and his antics-
9. McCall
10. Douglas or Morrison

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 11 Jun 2005, 13:51

Professor X, just to stop u from making a bigger fool of urself. I am pretty sure Mike Tyson even of the nineties would have beaten Ray Mercer, old george foreman (knocked foreman out), and he would have knocked out michaeil moorer.

AND IKE DOEST BELONG ON THE LIST, DIDNT DO ENOUGH. AND LEWIS IS DEFINETLY # 1. BOWE "THE GARBAGE PICKER" DUCKED HIM, HE BEAT HOLYFIELD TWICE ( YES TWICE), AND LEWIUS WOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEATEN HOLYFIELD BECAUSE HOLYFIELD HAS PROBLEMS WITH BIGGER FIGHTERS.

RAY MERCER DIDNT EVEN WIN A TITLE, HE BELONGS # 9 OR 10.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 11 Jun 2005, 13:59

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:I am pretty sure Mike Tyson even of the nineties would have beaten Ray Mercer, old george foreman (knocked foreman out), and he would have knocked out michaeil moorer.

I think the Mike Tyson of 1991 would have beaten all 3 guys, although I don't think he would have KO'ed Big George Foreman. But looking at the decade as a whole Foreman and Moorer proabbly achieved more and would rank higher in a "league" system.

Professor X · Post by **Professor X** » 11 Jun 2005, 14:36

Go fukk yourself, BrocktonBlockbuster.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 11 Jun 2005, 15:50

1) Evander Holyfield- Has the best wins and even at 39 was beating top teners (Ruiz, Rahman)

2) Lennox Lewis

3) Riddick Bowe-Some decent wins against Hide, Ferguson (its not his fault Jesse embarassed Mercer to get that title shot), and Donald but he's here primarily for that first Holyfield fight.

4) Mike Tyson-Sorry, wins over Ruddock and Bruno don't get him past the above 3 . . no way. Plus he got whupped by Holyfield, and basically ducked the entire top 10 from 1997-2000.

5) Michael Moorer

6) George Foreman

7) Ray Mercer-Has gotten a little over-rated. Remember this guy lost to Ferguson, Wilson, and schooled by an old Holmes. Tough as nails with good power but very one dimensional and awful stamina.

8) Larry Holmes-Stringed together a good resume for awhile in the early-mid 90s

9) Oliver McCall

10) Tommy Morrison

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 11 Jun 2005, 15:51

You see, why can't everybody just get along? It's good to have different opinions when backed up by reasoned debate. It lifts us above the animals.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 11 Jun 2005, 18:14

Professor X, this is a heated boxing debate forum. We talk about topics in a very hardcore way and some arguements and debates turn ugly. Its all part of talking about boxing. if u can't handle criticism and dissagreement, then stick a cock up ur ass and get the hell outta here.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 11 Jun 2005, 18:22

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:Professor X, this is a heated boxing debate forum. We talk about topics in a very hardcore way and some arguements and debates turn ugly. Its all part of talking about boxing. if u can't handle criticism and dissagreement, then stick a cock up ur ass and get the hell outta here.

Just remind me why talking about boxing requires that some debates turn ugly?

Professor X · Post by **Professor X** » 11 Jun 2005, 19:08

I will stick a big fat cock in your mothers ass, pull out, cum on her eyelid and still hang around here, BrocktonBockbuster, right in front of your face. See? That's what being a Tyson groupie will get you.

Marciano is one thing...Tyson is a piece of schitt.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 11 Jun 2005, 19:12

Right, so that's why some debates turn ugly.........

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 11 Jun 2005, 19:16

PROFESSOR seX wrote:

I will stick a big fat cock in your mothers ass, pull out, cum on her eyelid and still hang around here, BrocktonBockbuster, right in front of your face. See? That's what being a Tyson groupie will get you.

I have no Comment

Professor X · Post by **Professor X** » 11 Jun 2005, 21:24

Very well, BrocktonBlockbuster49. I'll keep you at arms length, too.

reverandjimmy · Post by **reverandjimmy** » 12 Jun 2005, 20:00

ok blockbuster hate to bust your bubble about tyson ko foreman but you know how many boxers ever put foreman on the mat? 2 ali & jimmy young. couldve tyson stayed in the ring with george for 12 rounds i seriously doubt it.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 12 Jun 2005, 21:28

This is for the 90's strictly

1) Holyfield
2) Lewis
3) Bowe
4) Tyson - Ruddock, Bruno, Seldon, Botha on his record in the 90's.
5) Moorer
6) Foreman
7) McCall
8) Axel Schultz - shafted vs Foreman and Botha, ran Moorer close.
9) Bruno
10) Morrison / Mercer - hard to seperate - Morrison has the better wins, but Mercer beat Morrison, both had shock losses.
11) Akinwande.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 12 Jun 2005, 23:31

reverandjimmy wrote:

ok blockbuster hate to bust your bubble about tyson ko foreman but you know how many boxers ever put foreman on the mat? 2 ali & jimmy young. couldve tyson stayed in the ring with george for 12 rounds i seriously doubt it.

I hate to bust your bubble man but it is my opinion tyson has just as much power as foreman if not more which he probably does. Foreman also doesnt have the best stamina early and if ur talking about a 45 year old foreman WHICH I HOPE UR NOT, he would get knocked out by tyson. He left himself open then and the 95 tyson at 28, still had a lot of power and would have flattened and old foreman. Holyfield hit foreman so many times and foreman nearly went down. if tyson hit him that many times hed be out.

And tyson did beat bonecrusher and tucker over 12 rounds which proves in his prime he can go 12 rounds.