James Toney came in at a huge 235 and beat overmatched Dominick Guinn over 12 rounds with scores of 119-109, 119-109, 117-111.
The other Heavyweight "attraction" saw friends Chris Byrd and DaVaryl Williamson battle it out in a fight that sounded as dull as when Barrett and Rahman squared off. Byrd won 115-113, 116-112, 116-112 and i think he is definately on the slide.
In the big one Antonio Tarver beat Roy Jones Jnr rather surprisingly on points and not the KO most people has predicted, the final scores were a close 116-112, 116-112 and 117-111. Accoring to Teletext Jones looked sharp early on and reasonably quick but faded badly down the stretch and Tarver's jab took over, Jones was in trouble during the 11th but pulled through. Jones still has not officially announced his retirement, does this result say more about Tarver than Jones?
A surprising undercard result saw Nate Campbell TKO Kid Diamond in the tenth round.
Last Night's US Fights
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jomothepure
- Heavyweight
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This should really be left to the betting thread, but I did see last night that Byrd was roughly 1/3 to beat Williamson last night - and William Hills had him 2/5 to win on points. 
Says it all really. I just about prefer Ruiz as a champion.
One interesting thing I saw this morning if I can find it again was a little bit of bitterness from Byrd towards King.
Byrd blamed his rocky relations with promoter Don King for his poor showing.
"If you are with Don King and you're in his dog house, you don't get to fight," said Byrd, whose last appearance was a decision over Jameel McCline on 12 November.
"I need to be active. I'm off 11 months, that's what you get."
That was from the BBC, but I think they've actually deleted the most interesting bit of it, which I can't remember now
Says it all really. I just about prefer Ruiz as a champion.One interesting thing I saw this morning if I can find it again was a little bit of bitterness from Byrd towards King.
Byrd blamed his rocky relations with promoter Don King for his poor showing.
"If you are with Don King and you're in his dog house, you don't get to fight," said Byrd, whose last appearance was a decision over Jameel McCline on 12 November.
"I need to be active. I'm off 11 months, that's what you get."
That was from the BBC, but I think they've actually deleted the most interesting bit of it, which I can't remember now
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Cuban Lion
- Heavyweight
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Byrd v Williamson was so boring the ref called a time out in the early rounds and told them to mix it up.The crowd were booing the whole fight.
Williamson should have won if he just threw more punches as Byrd was pathetic and a disgrace to boxing.
Jones was scared of being ko'd but showed glimpses of old.Tarver was not really that brilliant,Jones lost more than Tarver won if that makes sense.
Kid Diamond was getting pounded the corner should have pulled him out.
Williamson should have won if he just threw more punches as Byrd was pathetic and a disgrace to boxing.
Jones was scared of being ko'd but showed glimpses of old.Tarver was not really that brilliant,Jones lost more than Tarver won if that makes sense.
Kid Diamond was getting pounded the corner should have pulled him out.
I heard Byrd is supposed to be on a guaranteed $2.5 million a fight (god knows why) off King but was only receiving about half a million for this bout. I think Byrd is seriously a fighter on the slide, his performances have been patchy of late and he isn't getting any younger. I feel it's just a matter of time before he loses.
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Manos de Oro
- Heavyweight
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Went the way I thought it'd go (as kilburn said the other week). Throughout the fight Roy showed all his old moves and movement but virtually no punches - just occasionally trying right hand pot shots. In the first round he hardly threw a punch. Then in the second round he started to time a left jab very nicely, but then let it go for the rest of the fight.
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Then, in the 5th round, he saw he could hurt Tarver - maybe force a stoppage - if he landed combination bursts. Comes out and loses the 6th; no sign of those combination bursts for the rest of the fight.
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In the 11th Tarver had him out on his feet and could have easily forced a stoppage if he'd upped his workrate. Instead he threw about 3 punches and nearly toppled head-first over the top rope. Roy suddenly realised he wasn't out yet, and took up the opportunity to scrap. Didn't agree with Emmanuel Steward and the HBO team here - they said Tarver was tired and ready to quit. He was ready to quit alright, but only because he cannot handle being unsettled; someone getting on top of him. The reason I say this is because in the first fight with Eric Harding he actually went down, not from a punch, but from a chink he's got in his mental game. Once Roy didn't go down and actually growled his teeth at him, he mentally collapsed. Roy could have stopped him here if he'd let his punches go. They wouldn't even have to have been hard. But, surprise surprise, he doesn't seize the moment.
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Credit where it's due, he kind of let out in the post-fight interview that he gained a little satisfaction going out on his feet rather than his back. He also admitted that Tarver's cool, lackadaisical style would have given him problems at any time (look for this to get blown out of all proportion for ever more), and that he knew he'd made a few mistakes in terms of tactics (three ?'s above). Let's hope he more than anyone will know the reasons why things went as they did. And let's also hope he sticks to the commentating from now on.
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Then, in the 5th round, he saw he could hurt Tarver - maybe force a stoppage - if he landed combination bursts. Comes out and loses the 6th; no sign of those combination bursts for the rest of the fight.
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In the 11th Tarver had him out on his feet and could have easily forced a stoppage if he'd upped his workrate. Instead he threw about 3 punches and nearly toppled head-first over the top rope. Roy suddenly realised he wasn't out yet, and took up the opportunity to scrap. Didn't agree with Emmanuel Steward and the HBO team here - they said Tarver was tired and ready to quit. He was ready to quit alright, but only because he cannot handle being unsettled; someone getting on top of him. The reason I say this is because in the first fight with Eric Harding he actually went down, not from a punch, but from a chink he's got in his mental game. Once Roy didn't go down and actually growled his teeth at him, he mentally collapsed. Roy could have stopped him here if he'd let his punches go. They wouldn't even have to have been hard. But, surprise surprise, he doesn't seize the moment.
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Credit where it's due, he kind of let out in the post-fight interview that he gained a little satisfaction going out on his feet rather than his back. He also admitted that Tarver's cool, lackadaisical style would have given him problems at any time (look for this to get blown out of all proportion for ever more), and that he knew he'd made a few mistakes in terms of tactics (three ?'s above). Let's hope he more than anyone will know the reasons why things went as they did. And let's also hope he sticks to the commentating from now on.
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Manos de Oro
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Re: Last Night's US Fights
What a complete farce the heavyweight division has decended into (getting boring even saying this all the time). Toney looked a bizarre sight in some purple getup lined with white fur, and that's not even to mention the belly and chins that flopped out when he took the top off....steve689 wrote:James Toney came in at a huge 235 and beat overmatched Dominick Guinn over 12 rounds with scores of 119-109, 119-109, 117-111.
Guinn must surely be put firmly in the 'ex-prospect' category now. First time I'd seen him (other than highlights) and even before the intro's he looked to have no devil about him whatsoever. It was just a totally sickening schooling session he got from a guy who has beat up more fringe contenders than he's had hot dinners. Okay, maybe not that many.