Khan ready for Kevin Mitchell now
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MightyWarrior
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What happened to our British Light-Middles is exactly why we should rejoice at Warren getting fucked over by Team Hatton now.
Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
But instead they were all uninspiringly matched and when they did get fights at world level were soundly beaten and I bet they don't have much cash in the bank either.
Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
But instead they were all uninspiringly matched and when they did get fights at world level were soundly beaten and I bet they don't have much cash in the bank either.
Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
Was just going to say the same thing!Foggy wrote:Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
Lockett could have been the wild Card, (and Farnell for comedy value). There would have been money, excitement, action, real domestic rivalry. It would have been brilliant.....but no, it got Warrened. It got Warrened big time.Deserter wrote:Was just going to say the same thing!Foggy wrote:Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
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Old bones Ian
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Takaloo got beat by Santos, Alexander got beat by Simon, Williams got beat by Martinez. Even if Takaloo, Williams and Alexander had fought each other, it wouldn't of improved there chances of beating those opponents.Foggy wrote:Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
I'm not saying the matches shouldn't of happened, but they were all well beaten by their respective world class opponents
Thats not the point....... the light-middle division was red hot with a wealth of potential world-class talent. They should have been squared of in a mini style tournament to find out who was the best. Not one fight out of a possible 4 or 5 different matches was made (at the right time)........ lthe light middle division got warrened!!!topper123 wrote:Takaloo got beat by Santos, Alexander got beat by Simon, Williams got beat by Martinez. Even if Takaloo, Williams and Alexander had fought each other, it wouldn't of improved there chances of beating those opponents.Foggy wrote:Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
I'm not saying the matches shouldn't of happened, but they were all well beaten by their respective world class opponents
Same with our Light Welterweights, we should have had more than just one bout featuring Magee/Witter/and Hatton - a few years previous you could have added Jason Rowland to that equation also.
However, I did agree with Sports Network (although it has backfired) keeping Hatton and Witter apart because I thought it was clear that one (if not both) were going to win a version of the world title.
Different to the Light Middles, I didn't see a world class fighter in that bunch.
The Super Bantams a few years ago had Oliver / Brodie and Mullings. Easy fights to make but the camp made the calculated gamble (which failed) that one of these were going to reach the top of the summit. Watching these progress, I could see the logic - the three had world class moves.
I think the same can be said of the three (maybe four) Lightweight prospects around.
Its only the Light Middles where I could see a world champion in the bunch. It could have been some great domestic scraps though.
Richard Williams.
Anthony Farnell
Steve Roberts
Takaloo
Gary Lockett
Scott Dixon
Paul Samuels
Michael Jones
Should have fought each other at least once.
However, I did agree with Sports Network (although it has backfired) keeping Hatton and Witter apart because I thought it was clear that one (if not both) were going to win a version of the world title.
Different to the Light Middles, I didn't see a world class fighter in that bunch.
The Super Bantams a few years ago had Oliver / Brodie and Mullings. Easy fights to make but the camp made the calculated gamble (which failed) that one of these were going to reach the top of the summit. Watching these progress, I could see the logic - the three had world class moves.
I think the same can be said of the three (maybe four) Lightweight prospects around.
Its only the Light Middles where I could see a world champion in the bunch. It could have been some great domestic scraps though.
Richard Williams.
Anthony Farnell
Steve Roberts
Takaloo
Gary Lockett
Scott Dixon
Paul Samuels
Michael Jones
Should have fought each other at least once.
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Slapsie Maxie
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There was a few others when they were around their peak.Slapsie Maxie wrote:it is a shame we only got one fight out of that lot ( am I correct - Takaloo icing AF )
Slapsie
Tak vs Dixon.
Samuels vs Alexander.
Samuels vs Williams.
Tak vs Alexander probably happend a little too late for both of them.
You could have also added Adrian Stone, Kevin Lueshing, Ensley Bingham, Steve Foster (tail end of his career) and maybe even Howard Clarke IMMEDIATELY following the Vargas clash - he was ripped then, and did well vs Vargas.
Williams fought Martinez after a couple of years of stagnating, he was getting very stale in my opinion.topper123 wrote:Takaloo got beat by Santos, Alexander got beat by Simon, Williams got beat by Martinez. Even if Takaloo, Williams and Alexander had fought each other, it wouldn't of improved there chances of beating those opponents.Foggy wrote:Good point mateGoz wrote:Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Takaloo & others should all have been squaring off against other regularly, rematches the whole lot. And perhaps just perhaps by engaging in really competative domestic fights the one who emerged as the best might have gained and learned enough to have a shout on the world scene.
I'm not saying the matches shouldn't of happened, but they were all well beaten by their respective world class opponents
In my opinion there is a right time to move fighters forward and Williams came at least 2 years too late.
Alexander fought Simon at something like 48 hours notice, hardly great prep for a champion some were saying had a chance with Hopkins!
Takaloo I never really rated but whatever I think you are being a little naive in not believing that some really competitive domestic dustups wouldn't have helped some of them refine their skills and have a better chance of competing at world level.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition
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Khans a 140lber and Mitchells is a 130lber. I don't know why either are even talking about each other - how about Mitchell aims for Alex Arthur and Khan aims for Ricky Hatton in a few years? I think KM can beat AA in a few years
I can't see Mitchell been that competitive at 130 on the world stage let alone higher. Khan would stop him after a few rounds - better boxer, allot bigger and hence stronger - its a no brainer. If Khan had boiled down to 135 it would be possible.
I can't see Mitchell been that competitive at 130 on the world stage let alone higher. Khan would stop him after a few rounds - better boxer, allot bigger and hence stronger - its a no brainer. If Khan had boiled down to 135 it would be possible.
Exactly! Coming through a top domestic showdown really sets a fighter on the track towards a genuine world title attempt. If you are genuinely the best in Britain you at least deserve to go on and challenge for the European belt.Goz wrote:...I think you are being a little naive in not believing that some really competitive domestic dustups wouldn't have helped some of them refine their skills and have a better chance of competing at world level.
If nothing else the fighters get used to the 'big fight' setup. The sort of hype and pressure that a fighter experiences when he fights his big domestic rival, can only really be matched by a world title fight - you certainly dont get the same build-up and atmosphere when fighting some unknown eastern european or some south american road-sweeper. A top domestic dust-up tests the mentality of the fighters and asks whether they can handle it.
The fighter that wins the domestic showdown - in terms of confidence and self-belief - often goes onto another level and such fights often make the fighters.
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Old bones Ian
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I wasn't saying that the fights shouldn't of happened, just that i don't think that the 3 fighters would have been any better in top class,liamlion wrote:Exactly! Coming through a top domestic showdown really sets a fighter on the track towards a genuine world title attempt. If you are genuinely the best in Britain you at least deserve to go on and challenge for the European belt.Goz wrote:...I think you are being a little naive in not believing that some really competitive domestic dustups wouldn't have helped some of them refine their skills and have a better chance of competing at world level.
If nothing else the fighters get used to the 'big fight' setup. The sort of hype and pressure that a fighter experiences when he fights his big domestic rival, can only really be matched by a world title fight - you certainly dont get the same build-up and atmosphere when fighting some unknown eastern european or some south american road-sweeper. A top domestic dust-up tests the mentality of the fighters and asks whether they can handle it.
The fighter that wins the domestic showdown - in terms of confidence and self-belief - often goes onto another level and such fights often make the fighters.
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