All Time best amateur flyweights

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 08 Nov 2005, 05:40

Here goes the next list 1Pascual Perez (arg) 2.Maikro Romero (cub) 3.Yury Abachakov (rus) 4.Pedro Reyes (cub) 5.Peter Lessov (bul) 6.Istvan Kovacs (hun) 7Bulat Jumadilov (KAZ) 8.Wijan Ponlid (tha) 9. Yuriokis Gamboa (cub) 10.Francisco Rodriguez (ven) 11.Manuel Mantilla (cub) 12.Leo Randolph (usa) 13 Jerome Thomas (fra) 14 Kim Kwang Sun (kor) 15 Choi chol su (prk) 16.Vladimir Sidorenko (ukr) 17. Andreas Tews (ger) 18.Steve Mccrory (usa) 19 Henryk Srednicki (pol) 20.Ricardo Delgado (mex) ----just missed out Narvaez,Lunka,Enekes,La barba,Austin.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 09 Nov 2005, 01:50

I don't have time to make my own ranking at the moment but a few remarks:

I don't think Pascual Perez deserves the No 1 spot. He is my countryman and one of the greatest professional flyweights of all time. BUT after winning the olympic gold in 1948 he failed to make the argentine team for the 1951 Pan Ams, losing to Alberto Barenghi (who went on to win gold) and also for the 1952 olympics, losing again to Barenghi (who didn't win a medal).

In my opinion there is no clear No 1 fighter as no one dominated the division for a long period of time.
Maikro Romero was superb at the 1996 olympics but his stay at the division was short-lived. The same goes for Gamboa, Ponlid and Chol Choi. Randolph and Arbachakov turned pro early.

My choice for No 1 is ...
Pedro Orlando Reyes (CUB)

He missed the Olympics twice (1984 and 1988) because of the cuban boycotts.

Reyes was world champion in 1986, silver medallist in 1989 after losing a terribly bad decision against local Yuri Arbachakov who was stopped by a bleeding nose in the last round after getting hammered by the cuban who incredibly lost 18-17.
World Cup champion in 1983 (beat olympic champ Peter Lessov in semis)
Pan American Games champ in 1983
Friendship Games champ in 1984 (tournament held for the socialist countries who boycotted the LA Games)
World Challenge Match winner in 1984 (beating future olympic champ Steve McCrory)
Won Cuba-USA duals vs Steve Mccrory, Michael Collins and Arthur Johnson.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 09 Nov 2005, 16:41

I agree that it's hard to pick the greatest but on a one off tournament it would be hard to back against the following...Maikro Romero, Gamboa, and Dzumadilov.....they were the best I hacve seen and I would nearly go for Gamboa as number 1, Dzumadilov (thought he nicked the fight in Atlanta), and then Romero......Gamboa was awesome in Athens and so was Thomas, just that Gamboa was faster and that bit busier.....hard to imagine someone being faster and busier than the relentless Thomas....

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 09 Nov 2005, 16:45

By god Reyes must have been special as Arbachakov was amazing and was a great pro...think Yuri was suited ideally to the pro's, very fast hard punching Fly...so if he was getting hammered, that says a lot about Reyes. What's the deal with the stoppage does anybody know??, surely Reyes should have been declared the winner if Yuri could not continue due to injury. I'm assuming there was no foul play on Reyes part???

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 09 Nov 2005, 18:11

According to AIBA rules when it's the final of an international championship, if there's an injury and the bout has gone beyond the first round, the bout will go to the scorecards.

As the Reyes-Arbachakov bout was in Moscow the judges gave the russian an early lead but he was taking a beating when the bout was stopped in the last round. Had he not bled so much Reyes probably would have won as he was closing in on the scorecard.

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 05 Dec 2005, 10:07

Incoxelbox---is there a web site with the results of the 1984 Friendship Games

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 05 Dec 2005, 11:48

I have the finals results and medallists... somewhere. I'll post them. Cuba won 11 out of 12 weights but many 3-2 decisions. Stevenson won two spectacular fights with KO over Ulli Kaden and stoppage over Valery Abadshyan, he was at his best ever.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 08 Dec 2005, 18:02

1984 Friendship Games

48 Juan Torres Odelin (CUB)-Karimshan Abdrachmanov (URS) 3-2
Bronze: Klaus Dietmar Geilich (DDR), Starzyk (POL)

51 Pedro Orlando Reyes (CUB)-Z Raubo (POL) WO (failed weight)
Bronze: Janos Varadi (HUN), Ivan Filtjev (BUL)

54 Ramon Ledon (CUB)-Yuri Alexandrov (URS) 3-2
Bronze: Klaus Dieter Kirchstein (DDR), Gelin Kolew (BUL)

57 Adolfo Horta (CUB)-Serik Nurkasow (URS) 3-2
Bronze: Slavchev (BUL), Jo Ryung Sik (PRK)

60 Angel Herrera (CUB)-Nerguy Enchbat (MGL) 3-2
Bronze: Ramon Gil (VEN), Ingo Benske (DDR)

63,5 Candelario Duvergel (CUB)-Viacheslav Yanovski (URS) 3-2
Bronze: Siegfried Mehnert (DDR), Imre Bacskai (HUN)

67 Torsten Schmitz (DDR)-Jose Luis Hernandez (CUB)
Bronze: Luis Garcia (VEN), Serik Konakbayev (URS)

71 Angel Espinosa (CUB)-Mihail Takov (BUL) 4-1
Bronze: Sandor Hranek (HUN), Michael Timm (DDR)

75 Bernardo Comas (CUB)-Henryk Petrich (POL) 4-1
Bronze: Jan Franek (CZE), Zoltan Fuzesy (HUN)

81 Pablo Romero (CUB)-Wladimir Shin (URS) 4-1
Bronze: Miroslav Picka (Cze), Liu Gol Hen (PRK)

91 Hermengildo Baez (CUB-Gyula Alvics (HUN) 3-2
Bronze: Alexander Yagubkin (URS), Kirilov (BUL)

+91 Teofilo Stevenson (CUB)-Valery Abadshyan (URS)
Bronze: Ulli Kaden (DDR), Petar Stoymenov (BUL

Best boxer: Adolfo Horta (CUB)

All Time best amateur flyweights

All Time best amateur flyweights

all time best amateur flyweights