Amateurs who vanquished future top pros

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 17 Nov 2005, 05:08

Lennox Lewis - Tyrrell Biggs (USA), Vyacheslav Yakovlev (USSR), Petar Stoymenov (BUL), Jorge Luis Gonzalez (CUBA), Ulli Kaden (DDR) i Alexander Miroshnichenko (USSR).

Riddick Bowe - Adolpho Washington (USA, 2TKO), Nurmagomed Shanavazov (USSR), Jorge Luis Gonzalez (CUBA), Alexander Miroshnichenko (USSR), Robert Salters (USA), Lennox Lewis (CAN, 2TKO)

Vitali Klitschko - Oleg Maskev (USSR, 1TKO), Svilen Rusinov (BUL), 2 x Alexei Lezin (RUS),

Vladimir Klitschko - Michael Lopez (CUBA), Luan Krasniqi (GER), Alexei Lezin (RUS).

Chris Byrd - 2 x Todd Foster (USA), Dmitri Korshun (USSR), Israel Akopkochyan (USSR), Torsten Schmitz (DDR), Chris Johnson (CAN), Akaki Kakauridze (USSR), Tommasso Russo (ITA), 2 x Ramon Garbey (CUBA), Ariel Hernandez (CUBA)

John Ruiz - Andrey Kurniavka (USSR), Jeremy Williams (USA)

Lamon Brewster - Felix Savon (CUBA, 2 TKO)

Calvin Brock - Giacobbe Fragomeni (ITA), 2 x DaVarryll Williamson (USA, pts & 4TKO)

David Tua - Felix Savon (CUBA, 1KO), David Izon (NIG)

Oleg Maskaev - Yevgieniy Belousow (USSR), Roberto Balado (CUBA, 3KO).

Paolo Vidoz - Francesco Spinelli (ITA), Yevgieniy Belousow (USSR), Rimantas Prismantas (LIT), Christophe Mendy (FRA, 1KO), Svilen Rusinov (BUL), 2 x Rene Monse (GER, pts & 2 DQ), 2 x Vladimir Klitschko (UKR, 2DQ & pts), Hneryk Zatyka (POL), Alexis Rubalcaba (CUBA, 1TKO), Vladimir Lazebnik (UKR), Lazizbek Zokirov (UZB), Muchtarkan Dildarbekov (KAZ), 2 x Audley Harrison (GBR), Tomasz Bonin (POL, 3TKO), Alexei Lezin (RUS).

Henry Akinwande - Andrzej Golota (POL), Eric Cardouza (GBR), Jim Moran (GBR), Arnold van der Lijde (HOL).

Samuel Peter - Paolo Vidoz (ITA).

Lance Whitaker - Alexei Lezin (RUS), Clarence Clay-Bay (USA, 3TKO), T.J. Wilson (USA), Chrles Shufford (USA), Reggie Blackman (USA)

Kirk Johnson - Igor Andreev (RUS), 2 x Felix Savon (CUBA, 2 TKO & pts), David Izon (NIG).

Danny Williams - Vassili Kirianov (FIN), Don Diego Poeder (HOL, 1KO), Duncan Dokiwari (NIG), Attila Levin (SWE).

Shannon Briggs - Felix Savon (CUBA, 1TKO).

DaVarryll Williamson - 2 x Nate Jones (USA), Mark Simmons (CAN), Felix Savon (CUBA, 1KO), Jason Estrada (USA), Garth da Silva (NZEL), Michael Bennett (USA), Malik Scott (USA).

Jean-Marc Mormeck - Philippe Leclerc (FRA, 1TKO).

Guillermo Jones - Anibal Acevedo (PUE).

Steve Cunningham - Daniel Edouard (USA), Shaun George (USA), DeAndrey Abron (USA),
Michael Simms (USA), Terrance Johnson (USA).

Pavel Melkomian - Aleksy Kopec (POL, 2TKO)

Vincenzo Rossitto - Toth (HUN), Juan Cruz (USA)

Frederic Serrat - Akim Gros (FRA), Georgios Mourlas (GRE), Alexander Lebziak (RUS).

Dale Brown - Roberto Alvarez (CUBA), Orestes Solano (CUBA), Andrey Kurniavka (USSR), Alexei Ilin (RUS), Torsten May (GER), 2 x Ramon Garbey (CUBA, pts & 4TKO), Stephen Kirk (IRL), Paul Rogers (GBR).

Vincenzo Cantatore - Piotr Jurczyk (POL, 3TKO)

Darnell Wilson - Jeff Clarke (USA), David Reid (USA), Utkirbek Gajdarov (UZB), Esfandiar Mohammadi (IRAN), Karoly Balzsay (HUN), Jani Rauhala (FIN), Juan Carlos Hernandez (CUBA), Anthony Hanshaw (USA), Jorge Guttierrez (CUBA), Sergey Kostenko (UKR)

Kamel Amrane - Franck Forgues (FRA)

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 18 Nov 2005, 06:49

David Diaz twice over Zab Judah,Ricky Womack over Evander Holyfield,Ray mcelroy over Gerald Mclellan who in turn beat Roy Jones,Marian Simion over Fernando Vargas to name a few.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 18 Nov 2005, 18:21

Jimmy Clark-beat Greg Page, Tony Tubbs
Clint Jackson-Mike McCallum
D.C Barker-Leon Spinks
Emory Chapman-John Tate
Wayne Lynumm-Bernard Taylor
Davey Armstrong-Howard Davis Jr.

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 20 Nov 2005, 05:17

Floyd Mayweather - Martin Castillo Garcia, MEX (1994), Noureddine Medjehoud, ALG (1995), Augie Sanchez, USA (1996) i Serafim Todorov, BUL (1996)
Roy Jones Jr - Igor Ruzhnikov, USSR (1986), Andy Liebing, DDR (1987), Gerald McClelland, USA (1988), Park Si-Hun, KOR (1988)

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 20 Nov 2005, 15:14

Who actually beat Tony Tucker as an amateur?

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 20 Nov 2005, 22:53

Hermengildo Baez (CUB) beat Tucker 3-0 in a Cuba-USA dual meet in Havana in 1979.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 21 Nov 2005, 18:40

locoxelbox wrote:Hermengildo Baez (CUB) beat Tucker 3-0 in a Cuba-USA dual meet in Havana in 1979.

Wow, Tony did manage to lose internationally after all.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Nov 2005, 19:59

Some current world champions:

Miguel Cotto - Ricardo Williams (USA), Dana Laframboise (CAN) x 2, Mario Kindelan (CUB), Anton Solopov (RUS), Robertas Nomeika (LTU), Francisco Bojado (MEX), Marshall Martinez (USA), Kelson Pinto (BRA) x 2, Diogenes Luna (CUB), Mahamatkodir Abdullaev (UZB)

Daniel Santos - Stevie Johnston (USA), Roko Fröhlich (GER), Peter Claesson (SWE), Juan Hernandez Sierra (CUB) x 3, David Reid (USA), Oleg Saitov (RUS)

Ivan Calderon - Jose Luis Varela (VEN), Maikro Romero (CUB), Pal Lakatos (HUN), Liborio Romero (MEX), Brian Viloria (USA), Ron Siler (USA), Danilo Lerio (PHI), Yankiel Leon (CUB), Masara Lapaene (INA)

Omar Narvaez - Marcos Obregon (ARG), Daniel Reyes (COL), Mehdi Assous (ALG) x 2, Gerald Tucker (USA), Osvaldo Liranza (CUB) x 2, Manuel Mantilla (CUB) x 3, Pramuansak Phosuwan (THA), John Medina (USA), Bulat Jumadilov (KAZ), Daniel Ponce De Leon (MEX), Andrew Kooner (CAN), Wladimir Sidorenko (UKR)

Martin Castillo - Johnny Nolasco (DOM), Hemel Roldan (COL), Joan Guzman (DOM), Maikro Romero (CUB), Zoltan Lunka (GER), Manuel Mantilla (CUB) x 2, Bulat Jumadilov (KAZ)

Daniel Ponce De Leon - Mario Aguiniga (USA), Manuel Mantilla (CUB), Omar Narvaez (ARG), Lazaro Urrutia (CUB), Jose Navarro (USA) x 2, Pramuansak Phosuwan (THA), Gabriel Elizondo (USA), Somjit Jongjohor (THA), Wladimir Sidorenko (UKR)

Carlos Maussa - Joel Delvas (CUB) x 2, Roberto Guerra (CUB)

Lorenzo Parra (VEN) - Osvaldo Liranza (CUB), Eudis Mendez (DOM)

Jorge Barrios - Michele Delli Paoli (ITA)

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 21 Nov 2005, 23:07

Nile4000 wrote:Wow, Tony did manage to lose internationally after all.

Tucker also lost a couple of Dual Meets vs East Germany in 1980. He was disqualified against Jürgen Fanghänel in Rostock and lost on points to Kohnert in Schwerin (apparently robbed).

hawaiianpunch · Post by **hawaiianpunch** » 22 Nov 2005, 03:49

What about the obvious: Henry Tillman over Mike Tyson X2.

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 22 Nov 2005, 09:34

locoxelbox wrote:Some current world champions: Miguel Cotto...

Good WORK

Andy Liebing (DDR) - Roy Jones jr W (pts) W.C. Juniors in Havana (1987)

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 22 Nov 2005, 18:37

Rocky Lockridge-Jackie Beard

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 22 Nov 2005, 18:40

locoxelbox wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:Wow, Tony did manage to lose internationally after all.
Tucker also lost a couple of Dual Meets vs East Germany in 1980. He was disqualified against Jürgen Fanghänel in Rostock and lost on points to Kohnert in Schwerin (apparently robbed).

Did Tony move up in weight to challenge Fanghanel, I remember Fanghanel being a heavyweight and losing to Stevenson and Page?

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Nov 2005, 23:15

I don't know. Probably, because I don't think Fanghänel went down.

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 24 Nov 2005, 15:39

Mario Kindelan beat Felix Trinidad and Miguel Cotto.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 24 Nov 2005, 15:52

Mormeck was stopped by Jean Paul Mendy in his debut

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 24 Nov 2005, 16:33

Philippe Leclerc-J.M. Mormeck 1 TKO (1993)
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Data from Poland:

Tomasz Adamek - Zbigniew Gorecki (POL, pts, 1995), Sergey Borysenko (BLR, pts, 1995), Mihalis Aslanidis (GRE, pts, 1996), Sergey Mizerya (RUS, pts, 1996), Valery Agafonov (RUS, pts, 1996), Raffaele Bergamasco (ITA, pts, 1997), Jozef Gilewski (POL, pts, 1997), Zsolt Erdei (HUN, pts, 1997), Oleg Bokalo (UKR, pts, 1997), Sebastian Kalaczynski (POL, pts, 1997), Dmitry Strelchinin (RUS, pts, 1997), Isael Alvarez (CUBA, pts, 1998), Alexander Lebziak (RUS, pts, 1998)

Andrzej (Andrew) Golota - Pawel Duda (POL, pts, 1984), Felix Savon (CUB, 2TKO, 1985), Ramzan Sebiev (USSR, 3TKO-injury, 1987), Alexander Zolkin (USSR, pts, 1987), 2 x Gyula Alvics (HUN, pts & 2 DQ, 1988), Baik hyun Man (KOR, 2TKO-injury, 1988), Arnold v.d. Lijde (HOL, pts, 1989), Evgeniy Sudakov (USSR, 1TKO-injury, 1989).

Dariusz Michalczewski - Zoltan Beres (HUN, pts, 1985), Ersain Elibaev (USSR, pts, 1985), 2 x Cornel Ladewig (DDR, pts, 1986 & 1987), Ray Close (IRL, pts, 1986), Blagoy Sokolov (BUL, pts, 1986), Jorge Guzman(CUB, 2TKO, 1988).

Maciej (Matt) Zegan - Piotr Strzebinczyk (POL, pts, 1991), 2 x Zsolt Pinter (HUN, 1TKO-injury & pts, 1992), Andrey Korneev (RUS, pts, 1993), Noreddine Medjehoud 2 x (ALG, pts, 1994 & 1995), 2 x Falk Huste (GER, pts, 1995 & 1997), Santiago Nieva (SWE, pts, 1996), Giuseppe Lauri (ITA, pts, 1997), Andrey Kotelnik (UKR, pts, 1997), Leonard Doroftei (ROM, pts, 1997), Vladimir Kolesnik (UKR, pts, 1997), Timur Suleymanov (UZB, pts, 1998), Alexander Stepanov (RUS, pts, 1998), Armen Gevorkyan (ARM, pts, 1998).

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 24 Nov 2005, 21:57

Yaras72 wrote:Andrzej (Andrew) Golota - Pawel Duda (POL, pts, 1984), Felix Savon (CUB, 2TKO, 1985), Ramzan Sebiev (USSR, 3TKO-injury, 1987), Alexander Zolkin (USSR, pts, 1987), 2 x Gyula Alvics (HUN, pts & 2 DQ, 1988), Baik hyun Man (KOR, 2TKO-injury, 1988), Arnold v.d. Lijde (HOL, pts, 1989), Evgeniy Sudakov (USSR, 1TKO-injury, 1989)

Golota lost many times by injury. Do you know if it was because of cuts?
What did Tomasz Adamek achieve as an amateur?

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 25 Nov 2005, 06:39

locoxelbox wrote: Golota lost many times by injury. Do you know if it was because of cuts?

yes :(

locoxelbox wrote: What did Tomasz Adamek achieve as an amateur?

Adamek started training at the age of 12 in Goral ("Highlander") Zywiec boxing section. In 1995 and 1996 he won champion's title in Poland (75 kg), in 1997 he was vice-champion in 81 kg. He participated in World Championships in Budapest in 1997, in 1998 won a bronze in European championships in Minsk (lost to Lebziak on points in semi-finals). In 1999 he resigned from preparing for Sydney Olympic Games, even though he stood a realistic chance of winning a medal there, and signed up with Boxing Europe (talked into it by the legendary trainer Andrzej "Andrew" Gmitruk). His amateur career is approximately summed up as 108-14.
Besides pro boxing he started studying local government and administration at the Catholic University of Lublin.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 25 Nov 2005, 09:04

Thanks, I know I must've seen Adamek but I can't remember exactly.

Yaras72 wrote: Dariusz Michalczewski - Zoltan Beres (HUN, pts, 1985), Ersain Elibaev (USSR, pts, 1985), 2 x Cornel Ladewig (DDR, pts, 1986 & 1987), Ray Close (IRL, pts, 1986), Blagoy Sokolov (BUL, pts, 1986), Jorge Guzman(CUB, 2TKO, 1988).

He also lost to Roberto Alvarez (CUB) and Jeremy Williams (USA) both in 1990.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 26 Nov 2005, 13:29

Ray Leonard-Randy Shields, Jerome Artis
Michael Dokes-Bobby Stewart, Leon Spinks
Hector Camacho-Bernard Taylor
Mitch Green-Alfonzo Ratliff
Alfonzo Ratliff-Michael Arms.

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 02 Dec 2005, 17:11

Ukrainian fighters:

Sergey Dzinziruk - Artur Selikhanov (RUS, 2TKO, 1993), A. Mulradis (CUB, TKO, 1994), Marian Simion (ROM, pts, 1996), 2 x Al Hassan (DEN, pts, 1996), 2 x Oleg Saitov (RUS, pts, 1997 & 1998), Larry Mosley (USA, pts, 1998).

Andreas Kotelnik - Francky Leroy (FRA, pts, 1995), Matt zegan (POL, pts, 1997), Ovidiu Bobirnat (ROM, pts, 1997), Falk Huste (GER, pts, 1997), Andrey Kozlovsky (RUS, pts, 1998), Alexander Maletin (RUS, pts, 2000), Mario Mesa Kindelan (CUB, pts, 2000).

Volodimir Sydorenko - Daniel Petrov (BUL, pts, 1996), Roel Velasco (PHI, pts, 1996), Igor Samoilenko (MOL, pts, 1997), Carmine Molaro (KITA, pts, 1999), Valdemar Cucereanu (ROM, pts, 1999), Ilfat Razyapov (RUS, pts, 1999), Neno Nenov (BUL, pts, 2000), Jose Navarro (USA, pts, 2000), Wijan Ponlid (THA, pts, 2000), Jerome Thomas (FRA, pts, 2001)

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 02 Dec 2005, 18:29

Gerry Cooney-Johnny Davis
Clint Jackson-Roger Leonard
Bruce Curry-Clint Jackson
Milton McCrory-Anthony Fletcher
Jeff Chandler-Johnny Carter
Larry Holmes-Duane Bobick
Thomas Hearns-Howard Davis Jr.
Marlon Starling-Mike McCallum

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 08 Dec 2005, 18:22

Some more world champions:

Brian Viloria - Eric Fagan (USA) 1997, Jose Navarro (USA) 1998, 2 x Liborio Romero (MEX) 1998 & 1999, Maikro Romero (CUB) 1998, Pal Lakatos (HUN) 1999, Ivan Calderon (PUR) 2000, Brahim Asloum (FRA) 2000

Jermain Taylor - Fidel Hernandez (USA) 1993, Courtney Burton (USA) 1994, Jonah Dean (USA) 1997, Cleveland Corder (USA) 1997, 2 x Gaidarbek Gaidarbekov (RUS) 1997 & 1998, Darnell Wilson (USA) 1998, Anthony Hanshaw (USA) 1999, Ermakhan Ibrayimov (KAZ) 2000

Antonio Tarver - 2 x Richard Bonds (USA) 1992, Jacklord Jacobs (NGR) 1993, Ramon Garbey (CUB) 1993, Anthony Stewart (USA) 1994, Juan Carlos Gomez (CUB) 1994, Vassily Jirov (KAZ) 1996

Diego Corrales - Frank Carmona (USA) 1994, Terrance Cauthen (USA) 1995, Arnaldo Mesa (CUB) 1995, Marco Rudolph (GER) 1995

Zsolt Erdei (HUN) - Sergey Ismailov (RUS) 1992, Raffaele Bergamasco (ITA) 1993, Akin Kuloglu (TUR) 1993, Andrei Khamoula (UKR) 1995, Dirk Eigenbrodt (GER) 1995, Sven Ottke (GER) 1996, Malik Beyleroglu (TUR) 1996, Oleg Bokalo (UKR) 1997, Viacheslav Burba (KAZ) 1999, Antonios Giannoulas (GRE) 1999, Gaidarbek Gaidarbekov (RUS) 2000)

Markus Beyer - Carlos Febres (PUR) 1989, Tajudeen Sabitu (NGR) 1991, Juan Carlos Lemus (CUB) 1992, Jorge Guzman (CUB) 1993, Mario Veit (GER) 1994, 3 x Francisc Vastag (ROM) 1993, 1995, 1996, 2 x Ermaikhan Ibrayimov (KAZ) 1996

Scott Harrison - Ramazan Palyani (RUS) 1996, David Burke (ENG) 1996

Vic Darchinyan - 2 x Manuel Mantilla (CUB) 1997 & 1998, Ilfat Raziapov (RUS) 1998, Roberto Benitez (USA) 1998, 2 x Bulat Jumadilov (KAZ) 1999 & 2000, Waldemar Cucereanu (ROM) 1999, Jerome Thomas (FRA) 2000, Vardan Zacharian (GER) 2000

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 09 Dec 2005, 09:39

Tomasz Borowski (POL) W pts Zsolt Erdei (HUN), 1995

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