Please help me learn

vrax · Post by **vrax** » 05 Jan 2006, 12:16

Hello everyone. This is my first post and I hope it's under the right forum heading.

I'm a newer boxing fan and I think that this site is asolutely fantastic. However, as a new fan I don't know all the industry shorthand yet so, I have a few questions.

On the main name search pages there are letters displayed before the weight class/division, such as "A" "C" "I" et c. what do these letters mean? Please also explain what the color codes for those letters are.

Please tell me what all the win/loss codes stand for. I know KO, TKO, UD and SD. What is D? What is MD? PTS? I tried to figure it out before asking and it seems to me that MD is a majority desicion which occurs when one judge has both fighters tied and the other 2 judges have a particular fighter ahead, is this right?

Obviously if I missed a link somewhere and there's a page that explains this all, please point me to that!

Thanks to all in advance, you seem like a really knowledgable group of afficianados

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 05 Jan 2006, 12:34

Welcome to the site. This glossary will help answer some of your questions:
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:Glossary

"A": Active boxer (s/he's fought within the past 365 days)
"I": Inactive (hasn't fought in the past 365 days; also includes much-older records if it is unknown whether all career bouts have been found for that fighter)
"C": Boxer has retired and the record is believed to be complete (all fights boxed are included)

vrax · Post by **vrax** » 05 Jan 2006, 12:55

Thanks very much, that's exactly what I needed!

The only thing I didn't see explained was PTS as a win/loss code, can you tell me what that means? There's quite a few in Jack "Manassa Mauler" Dempsey's record, for example.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 05 Jan 2006, 13:32

vrax wrote:Thanks very much, that's exactly what I needed!

The only thing I didn't see explained was PTS as a win/loss code, can you tell me what that means? There's quite a few in Jack "Manassa Mauler" Dempsey's record, for example.

He won (green "W"), or lost (red "L"), the decision, compared to a KO or TKO win. It was a "points" win. He "won on points." He earned more points (PTS) than his opponent by the end of the fight. White "D" equals a draw.

vrax · Post by **vrax** » 05 Jan 2006, 18:17

Forgive me for being a pest, but, why do some fights show as "PTS" as opposed to UD, SD, or MD? is it because the judges tallies are unknown due to faulty record keeping or is it more significant?

Thanks in advance again.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 05 Jan 2006, 18:24

vrax wrote:Forgive me for being a pest, but, why do some fights show as "PTS" as opposed to UD, SD, or MD? is it because the judges tallies are unknown due to faulty record keeping or is it more significant?

Thanks in advance again.

A decision is defaulted as a generic points win. If it is documented by some source to be UD, SD or MD, then the bout will reflect that. This is particularly true for older bouts. The judges' tallies for more current fights are usually known. (You're not being a pest. You are asking questions others may have, too.)

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2006, 05:57

In case you didn't know...UD=Unamious Decision, MD= Majority Decision and SD= Split Decision.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » 06 Jan 2006, 13:50

Also some countries (Britain most notably) have not always used judges and decisions were given solely by the referee. Therefore there had never been any need of unanimous or majority decisions so all decisions were recorded simply as 'points (PTS)'.