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Arum exposes yet another Hatton lie
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:43
by boxingchat
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:45
by lvlarc
I read the topic then seen your name as author, what a suprise!
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:49
by boxingchat
Let the facts speak for themselves

Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:52
by Achybreaky
If you think anything arum says are facts then you are one delusional puppy

Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:55
by Coconut
WOW!
Miguel Cotto's promoter says that at some unspecified date and time they made a decision not to negotiate with Hatton any more.
Miguel Cotto's promoter categorically does not say that there were no negotiations between the two camps.
Miguel Cotto's promoter seeks to promote his guy over another fighter.
It's 'hold the back page stuff' for sure...
Mate, this is weak, even by your standards
And using a 'FACT' to rubbish another claim is just preposterous.
Re: Arum exposes yet another Hatton lie
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 11:48
by KO Artist
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 11:53
by MightyWarrior
Bob Arum: "Yesterday I was lying. Today I am telling the truth."
Sounds like Ray is getting the hang of this boxing business.
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 12:18
by REAL_DEAL
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 12:23
by lirva33
great post boxingchat, but don't expect the hatton nuthuggers here to open their little beady eyes to even a treacle of criticism
well spotted mate

Re: Arum exposes yet another Hatton lie
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 12:28
by Chambers2
I'd get counselling if I was you, Hattons departure from SN has obviously left you with a number of deep-rooted unresolved issues.
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 12:35
by jamesmcdonnell
Bob Arum is the biggest bullshit artist and flimflam man in boxing, he could't walk a straight line if he was on a tightrope with a 5000 foot drop on either side.
If Arum told me there was a heatwave I'd go buy snowshoes.
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 13:49
by Neri
lirva33 wrote:great post boxingchat, but don't expect the hatton nuthuggers here to open their little beady eyes to even a treacle of criticism
well spotted mate

You paid that bet yet ?
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 16:37
by KO Artist
MightyWarrior wrote:Bob Arum: "Yesterday I was lying. Today I am telling the truth."
Sounds like Ray is getting the hang of this boxing business.
He's like an old hand isnt he.
Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 23:19
by MPG
Why is everybody knocking Hatton,he is the best boxer we have at the moment and proudly flying the flag for britain.
He is WORLD champion and you get some dumb fucks still trying to knock him,there's a tread in the current sceen and the americans are knocking him aswell,BUT i have told them where to go LOL.
WE SHOULD BACK RICKY HATTON,NOT KNOCK HIM.
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 07:52
by silkov
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 07:55
by nickd
Yes laughable that FW throws his toys out of the pram as soon as he sees anything derogatory about him on these boards (lets be honest there is plenty of ammo) yet he is happy for his lackeys to post their anti Hatton bile all over the place. What a nob.
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:17
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Exactly - why don't they try building up decent fighters on their books other than Khan and Hatton. If they'd done a good promotional job on Witter - ie got him a fight with Mitchell/Harris/Cotto they'd have a belt holder at the same weight who'd make a load of money for them.
For all the talk of number 1 in Europe, he'd be allot bigger if he hadn't neglected some of the prospects that he has in the past.
Hatton leaving SN wouldn't have hit them as hard if they didnt put all their eggs in 1 basket
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:32
by silkov
Yes, Fwranks not half the promoter he seems to think he is, he only seems able to really concentrate fully on one fighter... first it was Naz, then Hatton now Khan... why are so many of his fighters forgotten men???.... his handling of Witter has been nothing short of a disgrace... Witter has spent his peak years chasing Hatton and trying to get meaningful fights... and this while he is connected to the so called number 1 promoter!!!...

Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:41
by KO Artist
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Exactly - why don't they try building up decent fighters on their books other than Khan and Hatton. If they'd done a good promotional job on Witter - ie got him a fight with Mitchell/Harris/Cotto they'd have a belt holder at the same weight who'd make a load of money for them.
For all the talk of number 1 in Europe, he'd be allot bigger if he hadn't neglected some of the prospects that he has in the past.
Hatton leaving SN wouldn't have hit them as hard if they didnt put all their eggs in 1 basket
They never felt Witter was worth investing in, becuase he cant sell tickets.
I dont blame them either. Witter is very poor Box - Office wise.
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:44
by silkov
KO Atrist wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Exactly - why don't they try building up decent fighters on their books other than Khan and Hatton. If they'd done a good promotional job on Witter - ie got him a fight with Mitchell/Harris/Cotto they'd have a belt holder at the same weight who'd make a load of money for them.
For all the talk of number 1 in Europe, he'd be allot bigger if he hadn't neglected some of the prospects that he has in the past.
Hatton leaving SN wouldn't have hit them as hard if they didnt put all their eggs in 1 basket
They never felt Witter was worth investing in, becuase he cant sell tickets.
I dont blame them either. Witter is very poor Box - Office wise.
Well I know a lot of Witter fans and had he got the fights then the crowds would have come in... also, surely it is the job of a promoter to make his fighter good box office... after all he's supposed to be promoting that fighter isn't he?.... if a boxer is bad box office then it is at least partially down to the promoter!...
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:53
by MightyWarrior
silkov wrote:
Well I know a lot of Witter fans and had he got the fights then the crowds would have come in
How many Witter fans do you actualy know? Two or three hundred, or two or three?
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Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 09:56
by jamesmcdonnell
silkov wrote:KO Atrist wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Exactly - why don't they try building up decent fighters on their books other than Khan and Hatton. If they'd done a good promotional job on Witter - ie got him a fight with Mitchell/Harris/Cotto they'd have a belt holder at the same weight who'd make a load of money for them.
For all the talk of number 1 in Europe, he'd be allot bigger if he hadn't neglected some of the prospects that he has in the past.
Hatton leaving SN wouldn't have hit them as hard if they didnt put all their eggs in 1 basket
Not true really. It's also part of a fighter's job to aid their promoter in making themselves marketable. For whatever reason, and I have never quite put my finger on it, the public have never seemed to warm to Witter. Look at how few times he's fought on his home turf....
They never felt Witter was worth investing in, becuase he cant sell tickets.
I dont blame them either. Witter is very poor Box - Office wise.
Well I know a lot of Witter fans and had he got the fights then the crowds would have come in... also, surely it is the job of a promoter to make his fighter good box office... after all he's supposed to be promoting that fighter isn't he?.... if a boxer is bad box office then it is at least partially down to the promoter!...
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 10:00
by silkov
MightyWarrior wrote:silkov wrote:
Well I know a lot of Witter fans and had he got the fights then the crowds would have come in
How many Witter fans do you actualy know? Two or three hundred, or two or three?
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I havent seen Witter fighting to too many empty houses... if he is so bad why has Hatton spent the best part of his career running away from him?. I'm sure one of the main reasons Warren 'promoted' Witter was to keep him and Hatton apart...
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 10:02
by MightyWarrior
I agree Warren didn't want his main ticket seller in with a loose cannon like Witter - too much risk for zero reward.
be interesting to hear Warren's take on it now - I asked him once on a conf call and he went through the roof.
Posted: 21 Feb 2006, 10:35
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
jamesmcdonnell wrote:silkov wrote:KO Atrist wrote:
Not true really. It's also part of a fighter's job to aid their promoter in making themselves marketable. For whatever reason, and I have never quite put my finger on it, the public have never seemed to warm to Witter. Look at how few times he's fought on his home turf....
They never felt Witter was worth investing in, becuase he cant sell tickets.
I dont blame them either. Witter is very poor Box - Office wise.
Well I know a lot of Witter fans and had he got the fights then the crowds would have come in... also, surely it is the job of a promoter to make his fighter good box office... after all he's supposed to be promoting that fighter isn't he?.... if a boxer is bad box office then it is at least partially down to the promoter!...
Surely its the promoters job to promote and the boxers job to box - Witter is exciting in the ring. Hes been awfully promoted though. If a promoter cant promote a fighter hes really a fight organiser instead of a promoter.
James did you just reply inside the quote? Get with the programme.