Thomas Hearns Amateur Record

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 21 Feb 2006, 12:15

Thomas HEARNS
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Born in Memphis (Tennessee) the Oct-18-1958
United States

Record: Amateur: 163 fights; 155+, 8- (11 KOs)

*** with several updates ****

1975
Western Golden Gloves (Las Vegas) Bantamweight: 3°
- Miguel Ayala
National Golden Gloves (Knoxville) Bantamweight: 2°
+ Mar 26 Wardell Williams
+ Mar 26 Rudy Orozco, points
- Mar 27 Miguel Ayala
United States AAU Championships (Shreveport) Featherweight:
+ Jun 10 Steve Dement, points
- Opponent

1976
National Golden Gloves (Miami) Lightweight: 2°
+ Mar 27 Pat Jefferson, points
- Mar 27 Aaron Pryor, points
United States AAU Championships Lightweight: 2°
+ Howard Jones, points
- May 15 Howard Davis, points - Hearns fought injured
Inaugural President's Cup (Jakarta) Juniorwelterweight: 2°
+ Dec Suranat Hardas (MLS), KO
+ Dec Opponent (JAP), KO
+ Dec Opponent (EGY), KO
- Dec 12 Syamsul Anwar Harahap (INA), points (2-3)

1977
USA vs Soviet Union Dual Meet (Las Vegas) Juniorwelterweight:
+ Jan 29 Vladimir Vassilev (URS), points
National Golden Gloves (Honolulu) Welterweight: 1°
+ Mar 30 Curtis Hockenberry, points
+ Apr 1 Ronnie Shields, points
+ Apr 3 Bobby Joe Young, points
United States AAU Championships (Winston-Salem) Juniorwelterweight: 1°
+ May 6 Andre Curry, points
+ May 8 Bobby Joe Young, points - Voted Fighter of the Tournament
England vs USA International (London), Lightweight:
+ Jun 16 George Gilbody (GBR), points
Canada vs USA Dual Meet (Montreal), Lightweight:
+ Jun 26 Cole Rafferty (CAN), points
USA vs Poland Dual Meet (Las Vegas):
+ Aug 13 Opponent (POL), points
USA vs Poland Dual Meet (Detroit):
+ Aug 16 Hogdan Gajda (POL), points

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 25 Feb 2006, 13:29

Venceremos wrote:Thomas HEARNS
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Born in Memphis (Tennessee) the Oct-18-1958
United States

Record: Amateur: 163 fights; 155+, 8- (11 KOs)

1975
Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight: 3°
- Miguel Ayala
Knoxville United States Bantamweight: 2°
+ Rudy Orozco
- Eiichi Jumawan

1976
Golden Gloves Lightweight: 2°
- Aaron Pryor, points
United States Lightweight: 2°
+ Howard Jones
- (May 15) Howard Davis, points - fought injured

1977
Golden Gloves Welterweight: 1°
+ Ronnie Shields
+ Bobby Joe Young, points
United States Juniorwelterweight: 1°
+ Bobby Joe Young, points - Voted Fighter of the Tournament

It's amazing that he didn't fight Hilmer Kenty, who was a lightweight in 1976.

klitscuses · Post by **klitscuses** » 02 Mar 2006, 14:08

I find it hard to believe that The hit man only had 11 ko's in 155 wins.

Are ya sure it's not 111 ko's?

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 02 Mar 2006, 14:40

Confirmed, only 11 KOs...

Tommy Hearns wasn't "the hitman" at amateur level.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 04 Mar 2006, 07:22

klitscuses wrote:I find it hard to believe that The hit man only had 11 ko's in 155 wins.

Are ya sure it's not 111 ko's?

Hearns was very much a Boxer type as an amateur and not the feasome puncher he became as a professional.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 06 Mar 2006, 11:25

Who broke Thomas' nose so that he couldn't participate in the Olympics?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 09 Mar 2006, 09:44

klitscuses wrote:I find it hard to believe that The hit man only had 11 ko's in 155 wins.

Are ya sure it's not 111 ko's?

It is 11 KO's. He fought George Gilbody here and I also have a tape of him getting pummeled by Aaron Pryor.

As an amatuer Hearns wasnt much of a puncher

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 09 Mar 2006, 10:38

thanks for the information

Yaras72 · Post by **Yaras72** » 09 Mar 2006, 14:09

KO Artist wrote:
klitscuses wrote:I find it hard to believe that The hit man only had 11 ko's in 155 wins.

Are ya sure it's not 111 ko's?
It is 11 KO's. He fought George Gilbody here and I also have a tape of him getting pummeled by Aaron Pryor.

As an amatuer Hearns wasnt much of a puncher

http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/glvhearns.htm

As an amateur, Hearns won 147 of 155 fights and took the AAU national and Golden Gloves 147-pound championships in 1977. The 6-foot-1 Hearns had only 11 knockouts in his amateur career but, after turning professional in November of 1977, he became known as the "Hit Man" because of his new-found punching ability.

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 25 Mar 2006, 01:42

His right hand was basically developed when he turned pro and trained w/Emanuel Steward

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Migz · Post by **Migz** » 28 May 2006, 00:04

klitscuses wrote:I find it hard to believe that The hit man only had 11 ko's in 155 wins.

Are ya sure it's not 111 ko's?

it defintely was 11 Ko

he didnt learn he could punch so effectively till he was with emmanuell steward

Ken · Post by **Ken** » 23 Jun 2006, 11:11

I know he beat Bruce Williams of Philly around 1975 in amatuers.
Did see a film of Aaron Pryor beating him. Pryor who fought Howard Davis some 7x as an amatuer got robbed in the trials against Davis.

The Kid · Post by **The Kid** » 07 Dec 2006, 14:35

I wanted to add a few notes on The Hitman.

I fought him in the 75 National GG in Knoxville Civic Coliseum in Tennesse.

I lost a decison to him.

He beat a kid named Wardell Williams of Kansas City prior to boxing
me.

I meet a kid from Low, Mass. named Mark Garrow.

I represented the Westcost Regionals since I won the Regionals in Las Vegas.

I am not sure who Hearns boxed after me since I went back to San
Diego.

I can say that he was the only guy I fought who was taller than me. I
was kinda tall for 118, standing 5'9.

Hearns did not have the style or punch that he later took on as a pro.
He was a runner and used his jab, almost in a open hand style. No power, but enought to keep you at a distance and gain points.
I did pressure him but he knew how to avoid getting caught on the ropes and kept the action in the middle of the ring. The Joe Frazier style was not my style since I was a boxer, hit and move type of boxer, but against
Hearns, I had to turn to a Joe Frazier style. Aside from a few exchanged jabs, a couple of jabs to the mid-sections and one overhand right that landed, it was just me chasing him and him flicking his left jab out and gaining points.

The person who was really bad back then at that weight was
Miguel Ayala who fought out of Ft Worth, TX.

Rudy

delisa · Post by **delisa** » 09 Dec 2006, 19:34

Hi guys -- I took what Vneceremos posted and added soe dates and a few bouts -- I ahve the clipping of his fight in Indonesia somehwhere, but here is what i have for now. I assume a search of the Detroit papers would come up with more.

Why no dates or venues in the record??

1975
National AAU, Shreveport, LA, second round, 125 lbs
Jun 10 Steve Dement W 3

Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight: 3°
- Miguel Ayala

Knoxville United States Bantamweight: 2°
+ Wardell Williams of Kansas City
+ Rudy Orozco, points
- Eiichi Jumawan

1976
USA vs England International (London), Lightweight:
Jun 16 + George Gilbody (GBR), W 3

Canada-USA, Montreal
Jun 26 Cole Rafferty, 132 lbs W 3

Golden Gloves Lightweight, Miami, FL:\
Mar 27 Pat Jefferson W 3
Mar 27 Aaron Pryor L 3

United States Lightweight: 2°
+ Howard Jones, points
- (May 15) Howard Davis, points - Hearns fought injured

1977
UNDATED -- Indonesia -- at least one win

USA-USSR, LAs Vegas
Jan 29 Vladimir Vassilev W 3

50th Natl. Golden Gloves, Honululu, HI, 139 lbs Welterweight: 1°
Mar 30 Curtis Hockenberry W 3 -- 3d round bout
Apr 1 + Ronnie Shields, points
Apr 3 + Bobby Joe Young, points -- final

United States Juniorwelterweight, Winston-Salem, NC: 1°
May 6 Andre Curry W 3
May 8 Bobby Joe Young, points - Voted Fighter of the Tournament

USA-Poland, Las Vegas, NV
Aug 13 Opponent W 3

USA-Poland, Detroit, MI
Aug 16 Hogdan Gajda W 3
Announces this as last amateur bout as he is tuyrning pro

ARamos3 · Post by **ARamos3** » 09 Dec 2006, 22:50

The Kid wrote:I wanted to add a few notes on The Hitman.

I fought him in the 75 National GG in Knoxville Civic Coliseum in Tennesse.

I lost a decison to him.

He beat a kid named Wardell Williams of Kansas City prior to boxing
me.

I meet a kid from Low, Mass. named Mark Garrow.

I represented the Westcost Regionals since I won the Regionals in Las Vegas.

I am not sure who Hearns boxed after me since I went back to San
Diego.

I can say that he was the only guy I fought who was taller than me. I
was kinda tall for 118, standing 5'9.

Hearns did not have the style or punch that he later took on as a pro.
He was a runner and used his jab, almost in a open hand style. No power, but enought to keep you at a distance and gain points.
I did pressure him but he knew how to avoid getting caught on the ropes and kept the action in the middle of the ring. The Joe Frazier style was not my style since I was a boxer, hit and move type of boxer, but against
Hearns, I had to turn to a Joe Frazier style. Aside from a few exchanged jabs, a couple of jabs to the mid-sections and one overhand right that landed, it was just me chasing him and him flicking his left jab out and gaining points.

The person who was really bad back then at that weight was
Miguel Ayala who fought out of Ft Worth, TX.

Rudy

Miguel Ayala = Mike Ayala (Tony's older brother) is/fought out of San Antonio. He also has a younger brother named Paulie who many confuse with Ft. Worth's Paulie Ayala. No relation.

The Kid · Post by **The Kid** » 12 Dec 2006, 00:28

Mr Ramos,

Let me add some dates that I have.

I fought Mark Garrow and Hearns on March 26th 1975.

Hearns fought Williams (and won dec.) and then fought me on March 26th 1975

Back then we had to fight many times at different tournament twice

in one day. That is not allowed any longer.

Also Mike Ayala did fight out of San Antonio but since he was representing the Regional that he had won, he was out of Ft. Worth, TX
when he fought in Tennesse. I was from San Diego but represented Las Vegas Regionals.

delisa · Post by **delisa** » 12 Dec 2006, 15:15

I found my notes -- in late 1976 Hearns and 4 other USA boxers particpated in the President's Cup Tournament in Jakarta Indonesia. 14 National teams participated.

Hearns's tournament record:
W Ko -- Suranat Hardas, Malasia
W KO -- Opponet, Japan
W Ko --Opponent, Egypt
Loss (3-2) Syamsul Anwar, Indnesia -- Finals

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 12 Dec 2006, 21:48

Who were the four other US boxers and how did they do?

delisa · Post by **delisa** » 12 Dec 2006, 22:04

Heavy Marvin Stinson -- gold
Lt Middle JB WIlliamson -- Gold
Feather Eeichi Jumawan -- Bronze
Flyweight Rocky Wycinski -- lost in QF

Hearns got the Silver

I will post some individual bouts later

Obmorok · Post by **Obmorok** » 05 Jan 2007, 22:43

Hi,

Does anyone know who coached Hearns during his amateur years?

Thanks.

stan · Post by **stan** » 19 Jan 2007, 18:40

Didn't the kronk figters train with E.S. as amateurs

Obmorok · Post by **Obmorok** » 22 Jan 2007, 00:43

His amateur record in terms of KOs is very different from pro career. Strikingly different

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