Max Baer VS Leon Spinks

[BoxBuzz]

Max and Leon had an "in common occurrence" ....in their post championship years they both tasted defeat at the hands of a fighter making their Pro Debut. Much has been made of this issue regarding Max as if it somehow defined him. I'm not buying that myself but it may make this matchup less than laughable for some. Art Oliver did the dirty deed to Max, and our own contributor (Johnny Bombs) John Carlo applied the same pain to Leon albeit in a bit more dramatic style.

Trainers in this case..... Emanuel Steward vs Mike Cantwell

How does this one turn out?

Max Baer
Alias Livermore Larupper
Birth Name Maximillian Adelbert Baer
Hometown Livermore, CA
Birthplace Omaha, NE
Date of birth 1909-02-11
Reach 81in
Stance Orthodox
Height 6' 2½
Trainer Mike Cantwell
W 71 (53 ko's) | L 13 | D 0 | Total 84

http://WWW.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=12077


Leon Spinks
Alias Neon Leon
Hometown St.Louis, MO, USA
Birthplace St.Louis, MO, USA
Date of Birth 1953-07-11
Reach 76”
Stance Orthodox
Height 6' 1
Trainer Emanuel Steward
W 26 (14 ko's) | L 17 | D 3 | Total 46

http://WWW.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=262

[Johnny Bombs]

In there primes i wlould have to go with max bear

BOTH were good fighters in there primes, but parting got the best of both guys

[Expug]

I would say Baer and I would base it largely on Spinks' fight with Gerrie Coetzee.
He had some problems with guys with big right hands.

[HeadBasher]

baer ko1

[Cap]

Spinks lost to Coetzee, but maybe Gerrie was better than Baer. Baer was more like Bernardo Mercado, talent-wise, and look what Spinks did to him. (Geez. I felt sorry for ol' Leon in this poll)

Cap

[granberry]

Leon Spinks

Trainer Emanuel Steward

http://WWW.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=262

Georgie Benton trained 7-fight novice Leon Spinks to beat Ali.

Benton walked out of the corner and the arena after 6 rounds of the second fight, saying later that was because it was not on the level.

Leon Spinks was a Philadelphia fighter.

Where do you get this Emanuel Steward as his trainer?

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[BoxBuzz]

Steward was at the end of Spinks career correct? Boxrec has Steward listed and I ran with it. Steward was there for part of his career I believe, is that portion in dispute?

[Thunder and Lightning]

Baer KO's Spinks easy if Leon couldn't beat the oposition he had no way he could stop Max Baer

Baer KO within 3

[pundit]

Both were inconsistent, shaky fighters so any prediction is bound to be shaky as well. The Leon Spinks that beat Ali could have given Baer trouble, but only if Baer would have come in as lacklustre and ill-prepared as against Braddock. That said, Baer was far more talented and should have beaten LSpinks 3 out of 4 times. A focused Baer is way too much for LSpinks.

[Jaclem]

..buzz..what the hell are you doing, entering a thread like this? on an offnight baer would kayo spinks whenever he felt like it. he might even do it while taking a short break between songs when he was leading a band. jeez..this could be another frankie campbell tragedy.

dammit....what the hell am I doing ANSWERING a thread like this?

[BoxBuzz]

Cmon I coaxed Johnny out of the Current scene for historical comment ....Decagon I though you would see the artistry in this theoretical...... and Jaclem....I ask that you just enjoy the eclectic aspect of this contribution.

In the wake of Leon's birthday I thought it appropriate.

Oh and our adopted "broken clock" Headbasher was able to demonstrate his spot on insight and quality assessing capabilities.