Richard Williams Vs Howard Eastman Vacant British Title

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 13:11

Dan has Vacated according to the BBOC website.

RW and Howard paired for the Vacant title.

RW must be pissed off for the Dann fight to fall thorough again.

Much harder fight against Eastman - but a good platform for RW to be viewed.

Anyhow Dann defends his Commonwealth - what would that tell you?.

Whats the deal JS?.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:03

Mmmm seems a strange one? I thought Dann was having some severe injury problems so I could see why he might be stipped, but to state he will be defending his Commonwealth title seems a little weird.

I do feel for Richard Williams here, not because I think Eastman is a harder ask - because I think Eastman will f about the BBBoC and not show any interested - leaving Williams to wait EVEN longer for a crack at the title.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:25

Will Eastman be up for this? Not heard much from him recently.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:27

stujones wrote:Mmmm seems a strange one? I thought Dann was having some severe injury problems so I could see why he might be stipped, but to state he will be defending his Commonwealth title seems a little weird.

I do feel for Richard Williams here, not because I think Eastman is a harder ask - because I think Eastman will f about the BBBoC and not show any interested - leaving Williams to wait EVEN longer for a crack at the title.

I dd not say Dann WAS defending his Commonwealth - I meant IF he does then what would that say!

Just spoke to RW - he is up for the fight and views it as a much bigger fight.

PROMOTERS

PUT THE MONEY UP AND HOWARD EASTMAN WILL BE THERE!

EXCELLENT FIGHT IF IT COMES OFF!

Maybe Fwank Warren may bid and put it on the Calzaghe Bill ??..

Maybe Matchroom will DIG DEEP!

RW would make Howard fight.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:33

Difficult to say how much Eastman has left, he looked terrible against Miranda. Could be a good match if it comes off.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:42

nickd wrote:Difficult to say how much Eastman has left, he looked terrible against Miranda. Could be a good match if it comes off.

I think he will always be a lazy git.

This is a an opurtunity for HE to get back to winnng ways an an opportunity for RW to ELEVATE himself.

This fight HAS to happen.

Pay Howard enough and he will be there - what other offers does he have?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:45

Same option as Danny Williams - retirement! I don't think we will see him in the ring again.

Quite odd that two UK fighters the Don signed at the same time and was heavily criticised for not using them, seem to have the same motivational problems.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:47

They are both strange nominations by the board, you'd think both will think its beneath them. Although its clearly not if they are planning to continue.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:48

stujones wrote:Same option as Danny Williams - retirement! I don't think we will see him in the ring again.

Quite odd that two UK fighters the Don signed at the same time and was heavily criticised for not using them, seem to have the same motivational problems.

Well - Eastman can get a rematch withn Na p - Miranda or Abraham at some point IF he gets maybe 2 wins.

RW Vs HE is a good fight and HE should take it even as a maerk time - but RW knows this is his BIG chance to leap up and he will take the opportunit f it comes off!!

British Voxing needs good fights.

Matchroom - Hennessy - Fwank Warren - Fight Academy - Sanigars?

BID BID BID!

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:51

I really can't see Eastman fighting for the British title again in all honesty. And is the fight really worth that much to promoters, neither is a big ticket seller. Can't see them bidding the sort of money it would take to interest Eastman. I could be wrong though!

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:52

I agree Eastman vs Williams has been a match I've been championing for years (ever since Eastman looking shaky vs Elliot). However, I just don't think the desire is there from Eastman.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:53

His desire has always been questionable, you wouldn't think a knockout defeat would have changed it for the better.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:08

No disrespect to Williams, but is he deserving of a direct shot at the British title?
Richard was one of my favourite boxers to watch a couple of years ago, but he has only had one fight in almost 20 months, and that wasn't the toughest match.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:11

I think we can expect a few good bis.

It is wort much more than a Dann Vs Williams fight.

It is all about the £.

If the price is right - we get the fight.

Hopefully

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:13

topper123 wrote:No disrespect to Williams, but is he deserving of a direct shot at the British title?
Richard was one of my favourite boxers to watch a couple of years ago, but he has only had one fight in almost 20 months, and that wasn't the toughest match.

2 fights actually.

Lockett WBUseless.

Elcock - had his chance.

Rhodes?.. Went down the wbu route.

Who else is there?.

Bendall?

Halder?.

Yes - he deserves the shot.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:15

Lets hope Eastman makes his intentions known sooner rather than later, if he's not up for it how about Williams v Rhodes?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:18

DG. wrote:
topper123 wrote:No disrespect to Williams, but is he deserving of a direct shot at the British title?
Richard was one of my favourite boxers to watch a couple of years ago, but he has only had one fight in almost 20 months, and that wasn't the toughest match.

2 fights actually.

Lockett WBUseless.

Elcock - had his chance.

Rhodes?.. Went down the wbu route.

Who else is there?.

Bendall?

Halder?.

Yes - he deserves the shot.

true it is 2 fights, but i'd like to see Richard take another good warmup before facing Eastman, who although isn't the boxer he once was, is still a hard puncher who is awkward to fight.
I think Williams needs to go a few rounds first,

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 15:33

topper123 wrote:
DG. wrote:
topper123 wrote:No disrespect to Williams, but is he deserving of a direct shot at the British title?
Richard was one of my favourite boxers to watch a couple of years ago, but he has only had one fight in almost 20 months, and that wasn't the toughest match.

2 fights actually.

Lockett WBUseless.

Elcock - had his chance.

Rhodes?.. Went down the wbu route.

Who else is there?.

Bendall?

Halder?.

Yes - he deserves the shot.

true it is 2 fights, but i'd like to see Richard take another good warmup before facing Eastman, who although isn't the boxer he once was, is still a hard puncher who is awkward to fight.
I think Williams needs to go a few rounds first,

That is exaclty what Richard Williams said.

He ideally would like to fit in a 6 rounder then Fight Eastman - but if no time for a 6 rounder he will be ready - he says he does not suffer from ring rust - he will be ready but would like a 6 rounder to get even sharper for Howard Eastman.

Dann? - RW would have beaten him - and Dann knows it.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 16:30

I think Williams would have beaten Dann too.

But why a 6 rounder? Shouldn't he be looking at doing 8-10 rounds minimum before a 12 rounder?

Scrap · Post by **Scrap** » 10 Aug 2006, 16:35

Didnt Eastman stop Williams twice in the amatuers

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 17:34

nickd wrote:I think Williams would have beaten Dann too.

But why a 6 rounder? Shouldn't he be looking at doing 8-10 rounds minimum before a 12 rounder?

I think he hopes for a late October date for the Eastman fight.

So a 6 rounder is better - anything can happen in a fight clash of heads etc.

I think that is why maybe a 6 rounder..

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 17:37

Scrap wrote:Didnt Eastman stop Williams twice in the amatuers

I think he beat him once.

Not sure of a stoppage though?.

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 10 Aug 2006, 17:47

Will be a good fight if it happens!!

Eastman will want to get back in the mix internationally, so he certainly needs it.

I say they are both past it, but Eastman batters RW for my money.

Both would do Dann though.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 10 Aug 2006, 17:52

JimmyJamJerusalem wrote:Will be a good fight if it happens!!

Eastman will want to get back in the mix internationally, so he certainly needs it.

I say they are both past it, but Eastman batters RW for my money.

Both would do Dann though.

Yes - both would do Dann.

3 years ago I would have had Howard as a clear favourite.

Not anymore.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2006, 17:59

DG. wrote:
topper123 wrote:No disrespect to Williams, but is he deserving of a direct shot at the British title?
Richard was one of my favourite boxers to watch a couple of years ago, but he has only had one fight in almost 20 months, and that wasn't the toughest match.

2 fights actually.

Lockett WBUseless.

Elcock - had his chance.

Rhodes?.. Went down the wbu route.

Who else is there?.

Bendall?

Halder?.

Yes - he deserves the shot.

I think Darren McDermott's recent form has been good. He's beaten Monaghan and Halder.

But yes, given his success as a Light Middle and the way he's performed at Super Middle - I would say he deserves the shot. Might have been nice to have seen him in an eliminator.