The G-Man vs The Hitman

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 12 Jan 2007, 00:54

Who wins this fight? I think Hearns should win if he uses his boxing skills and jab to keep the G-man at a distance and throwing a right hand bomb everyonce in a while So the G-man won't forget theirs a price for trying to get inside but if he tries to make this Hagler-Hearns 2 His in trouble! Hitman by Ud or Late KO after an accumulation of punishment

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 12 Jan 2007, 05:50

I'd pick McClellan in this one, miles better chin and too good a puncher at MW for Hearns. Could be a bit like Hagler v Hearns. If Tommy boxed it would go for longer, but I see McClellan catching up with him at some point

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 13 Jan 2007, 12:29

Yes he had a better chin but his defense was nothing to be proud off also note.. When he threw punches they were wide and when he got someone in trouble he got very wild and wasn't any patient Maybe He'll hurt Hearns but I see Hearns escaping it and knocking him out with his Sharper faster accurate blows.. And I wouldn't say Hearns chin is that bad He never got knocked out with 1 Shot Look at that Hagler fight he took alot of good shots..

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 14 Jan 2007, 14:29

Hearns was a lot better than McClellan, I just think its a really bad match up for him. McClellan chin wise and power wise was one of the top middleweights ever, although his technique and tactics werent great. Hearns was at his peak as a welterweight. McClellan would steamroller him, I cant see Tommy as great as he was keeping him off for 12 rounds

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 14 Jan 2007, 15:00

McClellan would steamroller him- Even Hearns going toe-toe with Hagler wasn't even steamrolled No way would McClellan would be able to do it if anything what your trying to say is the best chance for him to win is too go for broke McClellan would try for a KO early but when it wasn't coming he'd settle down and start following Hearns around while eating jabs and right hands Hearns Late KO

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 14 Jan 2007, 17:57

McClellan had a better punch than Hagler, and was almost as durable. He was also fast and offensively very good. His problem was his defence. He caught Benn on the wrong night as well. Yes, Hearns was technically far superior, its possible that he could keep out of G-mans way all night, but I just dont see him holding him off. Bad matchup for Tommy Hearns, a middleweight who could eat punches up, was fast, and with a sledgehammer punch. McClellan wins 9 times out of 10 for me.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 15 Jan 2007, 08:47

Offensively McClellan was devastating, look at his kayo ratio. Surely this in itself would present a danger to the fragile (at 160) Tommy Hearns.
Also McClellan was strong enough and had the chin to stay in there with Tommy for a large proportion of the fight, even if he was losing. This again would make the likelihood of him landing his bombs high. For these reasons I pick McClellan over Hearns. He would also have smashed Barkley, although it would have been a great war for as long as it lasted

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 15 Jan 2007, 12:24

Jermain Taylor is probably a starker example of someone coming in heavier than the MW limit, although he is technically more proficient than McClellan was.
McClellan was a monster, a big, heavy punching, nasty, vicious fighting machine of a man, who could take as much as he dished out. He'd be a bad match up for Hearns, whos record for taking punishment in the MW division wasnt good.

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 15 Jan 2007, 12:36

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Jermain Taylor is probably a starker example of someone coming in heavier than the MW limit, although he is technically more proficient than McClellan was.
McClellan was a monster, a big, heavy punching, nasty, vicious fighting machine of a man, who could take as much as he dished out. He'd be a bad match up for Hearns, whos record for taking punishment in the MW division wasnt good.

Who punished Hearns at MW? I hope yu don't mean "The Blade" because he landed a very lucky shot You mean Hagler? He went 3 Tough rounds in back and forth action Whats the G-Mans Record for fighting a fighter half as good as Hearns I hope you don't think his going to do a "Jackson" on Hearns I get tired of hearing the same "Shit over and over hit harder blha blah The best weight for Hearns in my opinion was Jr.Mw Sure he wasn't the same killer as he was in the WW division but I feel overall he was better I'll take Mugabi over his ass too atleast he was proven

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 16 Jan 2007, 05:32

Victor*KC wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who punished Hearns at MW? I hope yu don't mean "The Blade" because he landed a very lucky shot You mean Hagler? He went 3 Tough rounds in back and forth action Whats the G-Mans Record for fighting a fighter half as good as Hearns I hope you don't think his going to do a "Jackson" on Hearns I get tired of hearing the same "Shit over and over hit harder blha blah The best weight for Hearns in my opinion was Jr.Mw Sure he wasn't the same killer as he was in the WW division but I feel overall he was better I'll take Mugabi over his ass too atleast he was proven

Hearns was knocked out a few times in his career, and rocked even more times by lesser punchers than McClellan. Surely that gives him a good chance?
As for Mugabi, McClellan knocked him out in one round

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 16 Jan 2007, 11:33

Tommy was a fantastic 154lber, but Gerald was a big hard hitting Middle with a very good chin. He was also a decent boxer when he was settled and relaxed. I see him knocking Hearns out early. Gerald was also one of the best finishers in boxing. Look at how he was all over Jackson the second he hurt him. Hearns chin was good, but not good enough to withstand the volume of power shots Gerald can throw

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 16 Jan 2007, 23:53

Sugar Ray Leonard- Hard fight that with SRL Turning it up late in the fight its not like he was feather fisted

Marvin Hagler- I don't think I need to explain this one

Iran Barkley-You make it seem like if Barkley was even in the fight when he landed that lucky shot I give his props though he took a very good ass beating

As for Mugabi, McClellan knocked him out in one round

"Oh Yeah because that was a peak Mugabi silly of me to say something so foolish

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 17 Jan 2007, 05:34

Victor*KC wrote:Sugar Ray Leonard- Hard fight that with SRL Turning it up late in the fight its not like he was feather fisted

Marvin Hagler- I don't think I need to explain this one

Iran Barkley-You make it seem like if Barkley was even in the fight when he landed that lucky shot I give his props though he took a very good ass beating

As for Mugabi, McClellan knocked him out in one round

"Oh Yeah because that was a peak Mugabi silly of me to say something so foolish

It wasnt a peak Mugabi but it wasnt an ancient Mugabi either - he was only about 30. I'd take McClellan over the Mugabi that fought Hagler.
For me the fight that showed Hearn's vulnerability at the MW/SM weights was the James Kinchen bout - Hearns hung on for a decision, but he was reeling around like a drunk at midnight against a fringe contender.

Victor*KC · Post by **Victor*KC** » 17 Jan 2007, 12:00

It wasnt a peak Mugabi but it wasnt an ancient Mugabi either - he was only about 30

You really have no idea what your talking about do you?

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 17 Jan 2007, 12:09

At MW.....McClellan would be a tough match-up for Hearns in the early going -

But Hearn's without question had the skills to get through the first 4 rounds (IF his warrior spirit didn't get the better of him).

If it goes past 4 rounds...I'd go with Hearns by mid round TKO...or UD.

Inside of 4 rounds...I'd give McClellan a 50/50 chance of scoring a KO...but past 4 and Tommy own him I think....

Giancarlo · Post by **Giancarlo** » 30 Aug 2013, 17:51

Hearns by KO at 160 for me

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 30 Aug 2013, 17:53

McClellan KO. Hearns is the better fighter here, but as others have said. McClellan's advantages with his strength and more durable chin would be too much for Tommy.

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 30 Aug 2013, 17:59

gilgamesh wrote:McClellan KO. Hearns is the better fighter here, but as others have said. McClellan's advantages with his strength and more durable chin would be too much for Tommy.

Exactly. McClellan would Barkley him. Roldan also had Hearns badly hurt in the third. McClellan faced a huge puncher in Jackson and took bombs from him; I think he could from Hearns also.

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