The United States of great fighters.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 17 Jan 2007, 07:21

Choose a state then choose who you think is that state's greatest ever fighter.

When you reply, if you agree with the choice, then put agree then list another state & fighter.

If you don't agree with the choice you select your choice & continue as above

Obviously some states are going to be easier than others. I'd imagine that Philiadelphia might be quite a tough one maybe.

Being British, I will start with a nice easy one:-

Delaware = Michael Spinks.

john2345 · Post by **john2345** » 17 Jan 2007, 07:56

Syntax Error wrote:
Being British, I will start with a nice easy one:-

Delaware = Michael Spinks.

As Michael was born and reared in St Louis Missouri shouldn't he be categorised as being from that state? I know he lived/lives in Delaware but...

J

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 17 Jan 2007, 07:59

john2345 wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
Being British, I will start with a nice easy one:-

Delaware = Michael Spinks.
As Michael was born and reared in St Louis Missouri shouldn't he be categorised as being from that state? I know he lived/lives in Delaware but...

J

Fair point.

I suppose it could get quite confusing as fighters do move around.

john2345 · Post by **john2345** » 17 Jan 2007, 08:04

Yes, but to be fair I'm having trouble thinking of anyone else from Delaware to put in the list! NY and Penn are a bit easier!

J

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 17 Jan 2007, 08:37

How about using the state they were born in?

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 10:00

New Mexico = Bob Foster

Syntax Error wrote:Obviously some states are going to be easier than others. I'd imagine that Philiadelphia might be quite a tough one maybe. .

Actually if were're talking sates it's the whole of Pennsylvania, which makes it even harder becuase it ocvers a bunch of other great fighttowns, not least Pittsburg

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:32

this thread could be very tricky, apart from the normal issue`s dont forget some of those redneck southern states still refuse to accept the legitamacy of the union.
arkansas for example..........

they think they were dragged to the table and made to sign under duress by yankee rough riders led by generals sherman and stonewall jackson, who in turn were under the control of fancy eastern big city types that were slicker than a greased hog in their talkin`.
yess - sir - ee they still rue the day the railroad rode into little rock.

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 10:36

headhunter wrote:they think they were dragged to the table and made to sign under duress by yankee rough riders led by generals sherman and stonewall jackson, who in turn were under the control of fancy eastern big city types

I don't think many would describe Stonewall jackson as a yankee ruff rider who forced the south to sign.

1) He fought for the south
2) He was dead by then

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:38

J-C wrote:
headhunter wrote:they think they were dragged to the table and made to sign under duress by yankee rough riders led by generals sherman and stonewall jackson, who in turn were under the control of fancy eastern big city types
I don't think many would describe Stonewall jackson as a yankee ruff rider who forced the south to sign.

1) He fought for the south
2) He was dead by then

oh, lets just call it poetic licsence.

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 10:39

headhunter wrote:
J-C wrote:
headhunter wrote:they think they were dragged to the table and made to sign under duress by yankee rough riders led by generals sherman and stonewall jackson, who in turn were under the control of fancy eastern big city types
I don't think many would describe Stonewall jackson as a yankee ruff rider who forced the south to sign.

1) He fought for the south
2) He was dead by then

oh, lets just call it poetic licsence.

Mel Gibson is that you...?

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 10:44

J-C wrote:
headhunter wrote:
J-C wrote: I don't think many would describe Stonewall jackson as a yankee ruff rider who forced the south to sign.

1) He fought for the south
2) He was dead by then

oh, lets just call it poetic licsence.
Mel Gibson is that you...?

back on topic noticing its ali`s birthday i think i`ll add an easy one and put kentucky`s finest on the list...... Ali.

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 10:57

Another easy one Connecticut = Willie Pep

If were're going strictly on where fighters were born Alabama is going to be surprizingly hard as many great fighters such as Joe Louis and Evander Holyfield were born there but moved or fought out of other places.

Indiana = Tony Zale?

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 11:04

J-C wrote:Another easy one Connecticut = Willie Pep

If were're going strictly on where fighters were born Alabama is going to be surprizingly hard as many great fighters such as Joe Louis and Evander Holyfield were born there but moved or fought out of other places.

Indiana = Tony Zale?

i thought holyfield was from atlanta, georgia?
anyway george foreman was from georgia infact i`m sure ray robinson was from georgia so like kentucky georgia is a shoe in.
georgia - sugar ray robinson.

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 11:11

Holyfield fought out of Atlanta but I'm pretty sure he was born somewhere in rural Alabama no idea where.

Jack Dempsey must be the best fighter born in Colorado.

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 11:14

J-C wrote:New Mexico = Bob Foster

Syntax Error wrote:Obviously some states are going to be easier than others. I'd imagine that Philiadelphia might be quite a tough one maybe. .
Actually if were're talking sates it's the whole of Pennsylvania, which makes it even harder becuase it ocvers a bunch of other great fighttowns, not least Pittsburg

greb was from pittsburgh and as great a tradition pennsylvania has in the fight game surely they`ve produced no one better than him.
i aint exactly going out on a limb saying....
kentucky............ali
georgia................ray robinson
pennsyl.................harry greb.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 17 Jan 2007, 11:32

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... b370b69b48

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 11:50

Seamus wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... b370b69b48

Pretty comprehensive list there, only obvious one missing is Dempsey for Colorado. Ah well fun while it lasted...

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 11:51

Seamus wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... b370b69b48

on that list colorado`s best fighter is down as chalky wright and conneticuts is down as melio battina.
if j-c is correct regarding places of birth then his shouts of dempsey for colorado and pep for conneticut have got a good chance of making it.

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 17 Jan 2007, 12:21

headhunter wrote:
J-C wrote:New Mexico = Bob Foster

Syntax Error wrote:Obviously some states are going to be easier than others. I'd imagine that Philiadelphia might be quite a tough one maybe. .
Actually if were're talking sates it's the whole of Pennsylvania, which makes it even harder becuase it ocvers a bunch of other great fighttowns, not least Pittsburg
greb was from pittsburgh and as great a tradition pennsylvania has in the fight game surely they`ve produced no one better than him.
i aint exactly going out on a limb saying....
kentucky............ali
georgia................ray robinson
pennsyl.................harry greb.

You are going with Ali over Marvin Hart?

JC · Post by JC » 17 Jan 2007, 12:29

J-C wrote:
Seamus wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... b370b69b48
Pretty comprehensive list there, only obvious one missing is Dempsey for Colorado. Ah well fun while it lasted...

Just noticed Whittaker is missing from the list for Virginia.

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 17 Jan 2007, 12:37

Ambling Alp wrote:
headhunter wrote:
J-C wrote:New Mexico = Bob Foster
Actually if were're talking sates it's the whole of Pennsylvania, which makes it even harder becuase it ocvers a bunch of other great fighttowns, not least Pittsburg
greb was from pittsburgh and as great a tradition pennsylvania has in the fight game surely they`ve produced no one better than him.
i aint exactly going out on a limb saying....
kentucky............ali
georgia................ray robinson
pennsyl.................harry greb.
You are going with Ali over Marvin Hart?

flip of a coin

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 18 Jan 2007, 02:49

Seamus wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... b370b69b48

Thankyou for the link.

Should have put my search head on.

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 19 Jan 2007, 12:32

Maryland: Joe Gans... the greatest fighter pound per pound of his generation.

JAHamilton77 · Post by **JAHamilton77** » 19 Jan 2007, 12:48

I am in Texas and there are only 2 real choices.
George Foreman - Houston/Huffman
Jack Johnson - Galveston

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