What can Derek Chisora do?

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 14 Feb 2007, 14:35

The former ABA champion turns pro on Saturday. Fighting Tubby Kecskes. I think I have seen the odd amateur fight of his, but to be honest I can't remember him at all.

How far can he go? Area/Brit/Euro? Having Warren behind him certainly suggests he may be a British player within a couple of years when Aud, Danny etc. move up or out.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 14 Feb 2007, 17:57

why are heavyweights still getting pure headlines when the whole division worldwide has been awful this century

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 14 Feb 2007, 18:52

Well call me a glutton for punishment, but heavyweight has always been my favourite division, and as such I'm interested in the new guys starting out. In fact, since the division is so bad right now, then arguably that's more of a reason to look towards the next generation

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 14 Feb 2007, 19:30

jomothepure wrote:Well call me a glutton for punishment, but heavyweight has always been my favourite division, and as such I'm interested in the new guys starting out. In fact, since the division is so bad right now, then arguably that's more of a reason to look towards the next generation

I second that.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 14 Feb 2007, 19:38

i can stand heavyweights much prefer the lighter weights

proberly cause i boxed at bantam/feather, so im proberly biased to the lower weights

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 15 Feb 2007, 05:46

You have to think that any new UK heavyweight has a chance at this moment in time, as long as they stay out of Europe where they wont have a chance in hell!
Some People don’t think that Amateur success has anything to do with how well you do as a Pro I think otherwise (exception Harrison) and ABA Champ is not all its cracked up to be, compared to International Amateur Boxing.

So area champ probably, UK champ maybe. European/World no!

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 15 Feb 2007, 07:44

ABA Boxing wrote:You have to think that any new UK heavyweight has a chance at this moment in time, as long as they stay out of Europe where they wont have a chance in hell!
Some People don’t think that Amateur success has anything to do with how well you do as a Pro I think otherwise (exception Harrison) and ABA Champ is not all its cracked up to be, compared to International Amateur Boxing.

So area champ probably, UK champ maybe. European/World no!

agreed

he is only a novice anyway, id be suprised if he has had more than 20 bouts as an AM - the division is just so poor and the only 'decent' superheavy we have didnt enter the ABA's that year

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 15 Feb 2007, 08:41

ABA Boxing wrote:Some People don’t think that Amateur success has anything to do with how well you do as a Pro I think otherwise (exception Harrison) and ABA Champ is not all its cracked up to be, compared to International Amateur Boxing.

I tend to agree. Amateur success suggests that a boxer may have a good mix of the basic ingredients (punch variety, defensive qualities, timing and judgement of distance) developed sometimes to a very high level. This gives them a good headstart. However, what you can not definitively determine from a successful amateur are stamina over the longer distance, heart under adversity, desire and a single minded burning ambition to succeed in the pro ranks. And I think this applies even to International Amateur success.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 16 Feb 2007, 18:15

SticknMove wrote:
ABA Boxing wrote:Some People don’t think that Amateur success has anything to do with how well you do as a Pro I think otherwise (exception Harrison) and ABA Champ is not all its cracked up to be, compared to International Amateur Boxing.
I tend to agree. Amateur success suggests that a boxer may have a good mix of the basic ingredients (punch variety, defensive qualities, timing and judgement of distance) developed sometimes to a very high level. This gives them a good headstart. However, what you can not definitively determine from a successful amateur are stamina over the longer distance, heart under adversity, desire and a single minded burning ambition to succeed in the pro ranks. And I think this applies even to International Amateur success.

Has anyone seen this bloke fight?

Ive seen him a few times.

He is not all that at all