Lockett WBO No1

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:22

Gary Lockett is now WBO No1 contender, so how much closer is he to getting a title shot?
I can't see Pavlik racing to face him, for purely financial reasons.

So will the WBO force a mandatory? i think not

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:24

He deserves one. I'm speaking to him later this week for BBN so I'll post a link on here.....

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:25

Captain Hook wrote:He deserves one.

Why?

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:29

How on earth has Lockett found himself in the number 1 slot ???? ..... oh yeah, he's SN which means he won't get judged by the WBO on who he has beaten.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:31

Yeah will be good to hear what he thinks, i don't think that Lockett really deserves to be rated No1, but would love to see him get a shot at Pavlik, Gary has a good punch and chin. Although Lockett would start a very big underdog, Pavlik can be hit and hurt, so Gary would stand a chance.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:33

Duddy's WBO No 2.

Lockett would beat Duddy

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:36

He's been in an around that position for ages, he's lost once and is a hell of a lot better than John Duddy for example, who was being touted for Pavlik a few weeks back.

Duddy brings dollars, Lockett would at least pose a threat.

I interviewed Gary about 7/8 months ago and there was talk of a shot at Taylor, which obviously didn't happen.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:38

When Duddy retires Eastman I will be dishing out the humble pie

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:39

Humble pie? Eastman's shot, otherwise It would be another road sweeper for Duddy.

Eastman was overrated anyway.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:40

Can you ask Gary if he was offered the Abraham fight on the 8th of December, only i heard the offer was in the region on £50,000 , and was turned down by SN. So Elcock took the title shot instead.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:42

Well considering that we are talking up Elcocks win against Eastman then I would hardly say he was shot...there is a differance between being shot and being past your best..although Howard didnt look great against Ashira and Williams he never looked in danger of losing did he??

Lesson number 1 on December 1st

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:47

Old bones Ian wrote:Can you ask Gary if he was offered the Abraham fight on the 8th of December, only i heard the offer was in the region on £50,000 , and was turned down by SN. So Elcock took the title shot instead.

Will do mate....

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:52

looking at the WBO ratings how the hell is lockett above winky and taylor

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Nov 2007, 12:52

Pavlik and Lockett are very similar - personally think Lockett is a poor man's Pavlik, but I was dissapointed in Kelly vs Taylor.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 20 Nov 2007, 13:02

thepocketrocket wrote:Well considering that we are talking up Elcocks win against Eastman then I would hardly say he was shot...there is a differance between being shot and being past your best..although Howard didnt look great against Ashira and Williams he never looked in danger of losing did he??

Lesson number 1 on December 1st

Difference in my opinion is Elcock went up against an Eastman who had only lost in world class company and Duddy is taking him on only now he has lost to Elcock. I may be wrong but if Elcock v Eastman hadn't happened, there is no way Duddy would be fighting him

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 20 Nov 2007, 13:08

Lenny wrote:
thepocketrocket wrote:Well considering that we are talking up Elcocks win against Eastman then I would hardly say he was shot...there is a differance between being shot and being past your best..although Howard didnt look great against Ashira and Williams he never looked in danger of losing did he??

Lesson number 1 on December 1st
Difference in my opinion is Elcock went up against an Eastman who had only lost in world class company and Duddy is taking him on only now he has lost to Elcock. I may be wrong but if Elcock v Eastman hadn't happened, there is no way Duddy would be fighting him

Someone said on here that the Duddy camp have got very brave indeed after Elcock outboxed Eastman...I would agree, no way is Howard shot, I think they have taken a punt on a fringe world class fighter who is probably quite cheap after his recent loss!!

Either way it will be the same Eastman who showed up against Elcock..maybe even better as he may be highly motivated for this one....

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 20 Nov 2007, 13:08

Old bones Ian wrote:Yeah will be good to hear what he thinks, i don't think that Lockett really deserves to be rated No1, but would love to see him get a shot at Pavlik, Gary has a good punch and chin. Although Lockett would start a very big underdog, Pavlik can be hit and hurt, so Gary would stand a chance.

No he would not, he'd get absolutely pulverized. Gary Lockett is a domestic level operator.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 20 Nov 2007, 13:11

After watching my copies of Lockett-Tsarenko 1 and 2 I think Lockett would stand a very good chance of being taken out on a stretcher if he fought Pavlik!!!

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 20 Nov 2007, 13:24

He's got to number 1 because the WBO has a long and proud tradition of ranking average British fighters way higher than they should be ranked due to their friendliness with certain promoters who like to con the public into thinking that they are watching a world title fight.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 21 Nov 2007, 07:47

Can you ask him when he's due to fight again? He's only had one fight this year and been fairly inactive over the last few years. Surely this period of inactivty won't do him any good? its not like when he does fight that he fights ranked contenders.

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 21 Nov 2007, 07:55

Flump wrote:He's got to number 1 because the WBO has a long and proud tradition of ranking average British fighters way higher than they should be ranked due to their friendliness with certain promoters who like to con the public into thinking that they are watching a world title fight.

the WBO is also strangely snotty about ranking fighters who are ranked by other organisations.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Nov 2007, 08:02

Can anyone name me a time when a FW fighter actually CHALLENGED a champion?

Was it already in the books that Collins and Nelson were going to retire, giving Joe and Macaroni easier fights? If not, let's just say, God knows Collins and Johnny were old and creaky enough, weren't they. They couldn't have been pitted in any later vs those 2, that's for sure.

FW fighters treat belts like toilets. They won't go for it unless the cubicle has been vacated. Then they flush the belt down the boghole.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 21 Nov 2007, 08:03

Autobarn wrote:Can anyone name me a time when a FW fighter actually CHALLENGED a champion?

Was it already in the books that Collins and Nelson were going to retire, giving Joe and Macaroni easier fights? If not, let's just say, God knows Collins and Johnny were old and creaky enough, weren't they. They couldn't have been pitted in any later vs those 2, that's for sure.

FW fighters treat belts like toilets. They won't go for it unless the cubicle has been vacated. Then they flush the belt down the boghole.

Gavin Reese? But that was against another SN fighter.

JCB123 · Post by **JCB123** » 21 Nov 2007, 08:28

FW is a joke, & his only ambition seems to be to destroy British Boxing!!!!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Nov 2007, 08:36

Dirk Kelly wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Can anyone name me a time when a FW fighter actually CHALLENGED a champion?

Was it already in the books that Collins and Nelson were going to retire, giving Joe and Macaroni easier fights? If not, let's just say, God knows Collins and Johnny were old and creaky enough, weren't they. They couldn't have been pitted in any later vs those 2, that's for sure.

FW fighters treat belts like toilets. They won't go for it unless the cubicle has been vacated. Then they flush the belt down the boghole.
Gavin Reese? But that was against another SN fighter.

that's a decent one.

but it seemed Rees was a "gimme" opponent to keep M'Baye in the title. Which backfired shockingly.