I knew Hatton Would Split From Graham.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:43

I knew Hatton would split from Billy Graham, Hatton's way of trying to shift blame, he is in denial.

Hatton leaving Graham is too little too late.

jonp · Post by **jonp** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:44

who is this plank

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:51

Who would bet money on Hatton' s next coach being Enzo Calzaghe?

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:52

KO Artist wrote:Who would bet money on Hatton' s next coach being Enzo Calzaghe?

Good Call.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:55

StepinFetchit wrote:
KO Artist wrote:Who would bet money on Hatton' s next coach being Enzo Calzaghe?
Good Call.

Thought the same thing today mate. Only viable options I see are:

Calzaghe - Presumably would have to be signing back with SN
Roach - Might sign with GBP.

states · Post by **states** » 15 Dec 2007, 17:59

Eh? Am I missing something here? Has Hatton split from Graham then?

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:05

states wrote:Eh? Am I missing something here? Has Hatton split from Graham then?

That's the growing rumour. Spud touched on it earlier this week. Could be coincidence or SN just creating Chinese Whispers.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:05

states wrote:Eh? Am I missing something here? Has Hatton split from Graham then?

Only a rumour on the home page, but i thought this would happen
after the manner of the defeat and how badly Hatton took it.

Also an American poster on another site said someting about Hatton & Graham arguing just before the fight.

Hatton knows he can't make the changes to his phisical make up and style that would be needed to have a sucessful "second career".

Hatton is desperate and clutching at straws.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:05

THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:07

josh fg wrote:THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.

Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:08

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
josh fg wrote:THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.
Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.

Manny Stewart?

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:10

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
josh fg wrote:THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.
Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.

No trainer will make a difference now anyway, Hatton now has too many miles on the clock.

I bet Hatton's punch resistance will have dipped after what PBF done to him and that was one of his best assets.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:11

josh fg wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
josh fg wrote:THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.
Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.
Manny Stewart?

I personally don't rate Steward as much as 5 years ago. He did wonders with Lewis, but the jury is still out on Cintron and Taylor regressed, badly.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:12

StepinFetchit wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
josh fg wrote:THere are some rumers on ESB if it is true its probably a good move becasue I think hatton needs to start jabbing again badly. If thats true then he will not be fighting Witter soon.
Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.

No trainer will make a difference now anyway, Hatton now has too many miles on the clock.

I bet Hatton's punch resistance will have dipped after what PBF done to him and that was one of his best assets.

I disagree, Roach did wonders with Pacman (and Manfredo to a certain degree) transforming him from a brawler and Calzaghe's record speaks for itself.

StepinFetchit · Post by **StepinFetchit** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:29

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Exactly why I think Roach or Calzaghe are his only options, as they can change a fighters make up even late in their career. An outsider could be McGirt, as he had some success with Gatti, but not much.

God, I hope he doesn't leave it to his Dad.

No trainer will make a difference now anyway, Hatton now has too many miles on the clock.

I bet Hatton's punch resistance will have dipped after what PBF done to him and that was one of his best assets.
I disagree, Roach did wonders with Pacman (and Manfredo to a certain degree) transforming him from a brawler and Calzaghe's record speaks for itself.

I can't remember exactly when Roach took over pacman but i reccon Manny was still a young fighter and he had a lot more to work with stylisticly.

Hatton has gone too far down the road to change his style now.....Hatton never had great head movement anyway.

Hatton put too much into this exbodybuilder as a conditioner and hitting a static bodybag in place of quality sparring and working on new moves.

Hatton is done, someone stick a fork in him.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 15 Dec 2007, 18:38

StepinFetchit wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
No trainer will make a difference now anyway, Hatton now has too many miles on the clock.

I bet Hatton's punch resistance will have dipped after what PBF done to him and that was one of his best assets.
I disagree, Roach did wonders with Pacman (and Manfredo to a certain degree) transforming him from a brawler and Calzaghe's record speaks for itself.
I can't remember exactly when Roach took over pacman but i reccon Manny was still a young fighter and he had a lot more to work with stylisticly.

Hatton has gone too far down the road to change his style now.....Hatton never had great head movement anyway.

Hatton put too much into this exbodybuilder as a conditioner and hitting a static bodybag in place of quality sparring and working on new moves.

Hatton is done, someone stick a fork in him.

He was 26, only 3 years difference.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:05

Can you see Enzo standing for the Hatton entourage and the way he ballons between fights?

Might be what Hatton needs but can't see the hassle is worth Enzo's time, with the risk of disturbing the harmony at the gym.

Hasn't Enzo got some type of exculsive deal with SN??

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:19

I think hatton can chainge his style cos part of it is going back to doing what he used to do, ie working off his jab a bit more rather than confusing fighting with his face as an "all action style". Don't know how much he has on the clock realy, I thought he was gone when he fought Collozo but he proved me wrong.

In terms of Stewart I respect him cos when he talks about fighting he seems more insightful than any of the others. Also seems to be Don Kings favorate and that guy knows his boxing.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:23

josh fg wrote:I think hatton can chainge his style cos part of it is going back to doing what he used to do, ie working off his jab a bit more rather than confusing fighting with his face as an "all action style". Don't know how much he has on the clock realy, I thought he was gone when he fought Collozo but he proved me wrong.

In terms of Stewart I respect him cos when he talks about fighting he seems more insightful than any of the others. Also seems to be Don Kings favorate and that guy knows his boxing.

Do you think Stewart is better with fighters he's brought through? Taylor seems to have regressed and who can forget some of the things he said to Naz in his corner. Was it the MAB fight that all he said was you need a knockout, you need a knockout??

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:28

Steward likes rangy guy's who can box. All his best fighters have been that way. Definitely not the right trainer for Hatton.

I think it's gonna go down hill for Hatton from here. He's looked like s**t for quite awhile, but he's been getting away with the bad habits he's gotten into, because the competition wasn't up to standard. Now he's lost and the talk is he's already looking for a new trainer. Maybe Billy Graham is responsible for the hitting and hugging tactics Hatton has adopted, but it's a bit late to try and change things at 29.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:33

ArtOfWar wrote:Steward likes rangy guy's who can box. All his best fighters have been that way. Definitely not the right trainer for Hatton.

I think it's gonna go down hill for Hatton from here. He's looked like s**t for quite awhile, but he's been getting away with the bad habits he's gotten into, because the competition wasn't up to standard. Now he's lost and the talk is he's already looking for a new trainer. Maybe Billy Graham is responsible for the hitting and hugging tactics Hatton has adopted, but it's a bit late to try and change things at 29.

Is Graham responsible? Or is Graham adapting the tactics to suit Hatton and his conditioning? We've all been saying for years that eventually his lifestyle will catch up with him, so perhaps these tactics are a way of prolonging Hatton's career? If so its a job well done.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:38

LOL, just found this cringeworthy video of Hatton being interviewed before he began training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3AizWGAX4

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:39

Southpaw Stylist wrote:LOL, just found this cringeworthy video of Hatton being interviewed before he began training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3AizWGAX4

What boxing match was he commenting on for Sky? Can remember this but not who was fighting that night!

STP · Post by **STP** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:41

It would be quite funny considering Hatton was in last Saturday's Sun saying that there was no way he'd ever have another trainer than Billy Graham. But then again, we've heard this 'no way' bullshit from Hatton about the Mayweather fight, how Mayweather didn't stand a cat in hell's chance. Hatton is a big, big talker who just does not walk the walk. So it wouldn't suprise me.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 15 Dec 2007, 19:44

Dirk Kelly wrote:
Southpaw Stylist wrote:LOL, just found this cringeworthy video of Hatton being interviewed before he began training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3AizWGAX4
What boxing match was he commenting on for Sky? Can remember this but not who was fighting that night!

i think it was moore v facey