Amateur salary

Halfamill · Post by **Halfamill** » 02 Jan 2008, 16:43

How much money do amateur boxing referees, judges, and matchmakers make?

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 02 Jan 2008, 17:43

Make? They are suppose to be given expenses for gas and food. They are volunteers and although we may not always like their decisions, they are a vital part of the sport that is not compensated near enough for the time they put in to it. Some do aspire to move into the pro ranks and use the amateurs as a training ground, while other just love the sport. Matchmakers, however can charge for their services. The value of that service can range from a couple hundred dollars and up depending on the work involved and the quality of the competitors, the venue and the potential generated income of a show. In many cases, coaches and gyms know each other so well that the matching is done at the show by the coaches agreement to a bout. Other times they are done before a show to help insure of at least some made bouts. In those cases no match maker is needed.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 02 Jan 2008, 18:56

I'm not so sure today but a couple of years ago international referee/judges got paid 30 US$/day at international events.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 02 Jan 2008, 20:34

As far as I know, none of our AIBA officials are "paid" at international events other than housing, food and airfare to participate in the event. They might get per diem - I'll ask.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 03 Jan 2008, 01:43

boxmel wrote:As far as I know, none of our AIBA officials are "paid" at international events other than housing, food and airfare to participate in the event. They might get per diem - I'll ask.

WHAT..............WE DONT GET PAID FOR THIS,
I BEEN COACHING 8 YRS AND JUST FIGURED THE CHECK WAS ON THE WAY AND THE MAIL WAS SLOW........ :x ........I QUIT...!!!!!

miboxref · Post by **miboxref** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:01

At a clinic I was giving last year, one guy got there earlier than me. We sat around talking boxing for a while. He knew the sport. Once the others arrived we began to start the clinic. This guy got my attention and asked how much we get paid. When I told him gas money or food at the concession stand was normal, but not alway given, he asked how much I was getting paid to do the clinic. I told him I was not even getting gas money to do the clinic. He got up and left. I still laugh about that. He's the only one ever to do that at one of my clinics.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 03 Jan 2008, 10:24

Well - if you stick around, the "zeros" multiply. After 21 years, I think I'm up to a 6 zero paycheck! Great story, Ron - usually they hang up on a phone call. I've never had one come to a clinic and walk out; never show up at a show to train, yes.

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boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 04 Jan 2008, 10:21

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Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 04 Jan 2008, 17:57

Make? Good lord, I lose money doing this thing; and I'm not exactly in a position to be bleeding money.

Just remember that Amateur comes from the Latin word amo, which means to love. As an amateur, you do something because you love it, not for the pecuniary value (another Latin word for you).

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 04 Jan 2008, 20:22

Kolya, don't be so serious! Sheesh! Lighten up!!!

(I'm ignoring Hal's post.)

wsbuf · Post by **wsbuf** » 04 Jan 2008, 21:51

I just did a U.S. National regional tournament. I got a 2 slices of pizza and 2 bottles of water.

Was happy with that actually.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 05 Jan 2008, 01:38

Kolya wrote:Make? Good lord, I lose money doing this thing; and I'm not exactly in a position to be bleeding money.

Just remember that Amateur comes from the Latin word amo, which means to love. As an amateur, you do something because you love it, not for the pecuniary value (another Latin word for you).

kolya was good meeting you and amy tonight,
was like a boxrec renuion tonight
no sure how we lost the eric estrada - omero gallegos fight,

but thats boxing,
i have seen coaches throw stuff, make threats, freak out fits...
even watch a coach from alaska empty his water bottle on every official at the judges table...because he dident like the decision.....

that one got pretty bad,
but the one thing i havent seen is a decision reversed because of it...
so we gonna roll with that loss and come back harder next time...
so far were 3-1 with a bad decision

.....
kolya good luck on your bout tomorow....
babyhuey beaverton pal.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 05 Jan 2008, 14:41

wsbuf wrote:I just did a U.S. National regional tournament. I got a 2 slices of pizza and 2 bottles of water. Was happy with that actually.

Don't go spreading that around or everyone will expect it. You were way overpaid!!!

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 05 Jan 2008, 17:12

amy wrote:
babyhuey wrote:
Kolya wrote:Make? Good lord, I lose money doing this thing; and I'm not exactly in a position to be bleeding money.

Just remember that Amateur comes from the Latin word amo, which means to love. As an amateur, you do something because you love it, not for the pecuniary value (another Latin word for you).

kolya was good meeting you and amy tonight,
was like a boxrec renuion tonight
no sure how we lost the eric estrada - omero gallegos fight,
but thats boxing,
i have seen coaches throw stuff, make threats, freak out fits...
even watch a coach from alaska empty his water bottle on every official at the judges table...because he dident like the decision.....
that one got pretty bad,
but the one thing i havent seen is a decision reversed because of it...
so we gonna roll with that loss and come back harder next time...
so far were 3-1 with a bad decision .....
kolya good luck on your bout tomorow....
babyhuey beaverton pal.
Bad decision?! :x I judged that fight! (good that you didn't empty your water bottle on me though) Actually, I had that fight within one point. It was a good bout. You have a good team there.

Hopefully you'll be there tomorrow and we'll get to chat a bit. (and hopefully I won't be working 19 bouts again)

thanks, the fight was a little closer then i wanted but there both tuff kids,
after the decision and eric got over the disappoitment he comes
over and says..coach, can i fight him again tomorrow.?... i said hes alredy ot a championship fiht tomrrow, eric says...well when are we coming back to montana.....lol...guess theres someting to be learned from these little guys...great kid....all heart.
looks like its 26-27 bouts again today....

....gonna be a long night,
see ya then.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 05 Jan 2008, 22:42

but the one thing i havent seen is a decision reversed because of it...

Only time you'll see a decision possibly reversed is at a national tournament leading to the selection of our Olympic team, or if the announcer was given the wrong information.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 06 Jan 2008, 05:52

amy wrote:
babyhuey wrote:
amy wrote: Bad decision?! :x I judged that fight! (good that you didn't empty your water bottle on me though) Actually, I had that fight within one point. It was a good bout. You have a good team there.

Hopefully you'll be there tomorrow and we'll get to chat a bit. (and hopefully I won't be working 19 bouts again)

thanks, the fight was a little closer then i wanted but there both tuff kids,
after the decision and eric got over the disappoitment he comes
over and says..coach, can i fight him again tomorrow.?... i said hes alredy ot a championship fiht tomrrow, eric says...well when are we coming back to montana.....lol...guess theres someting to be learned from these little guys...great kid....all heart.
looks like its 26-27 bouts again today.... ....gonna be a long night,
see ya then.
Good fighters Jamie. Thanks for not pouring water on me when Alex lost. I actually had that one tied and gave it to your guy for what he did in the 2nd and 3rd, he really came on after the first and was looking good. But I guess the other judges had it the other way.

thanks amy, i wasent as upset at alex's loss as both of little erics,
alex was a closer fight,
i thought both eric's fights werent as close...
but what ya gonna do....?? i have 2 of the 4 kids advancing to kc,
so were looking oward to it. we know what we need to work on,
thanks for your words,
good meeting you sure we will be meeting up again soon.....

....jamie