just heard bout hobson ret and gammer comeback !

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 08 May 2008, 13:08

really sad that Mark Hobson has retired

he was good boxer with a real bang...i think he should have tried going up to heavy and chasing a haye fight at brit level....but seems his desire has gone

so he goes back to his main job (even if it is the rather tasteless debt collecting) with his marbles intact....

gammer however seems to be coming back...cudnt see why he retired in the first place....

no shame losing to Danny williams

ask....

audley harrison

michael sprott

matt skelton

mike tyson

and

kali meehan

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 May 2008, 13:50

I like Hobson, but I have to say I think he has messed Rob Norton about a good bit - with his - is he retiring or not question.

Gutted he has chosen to though, still had a good few miles left on the clock - but if the heart has gone, the heart has gone.

I wonder who will fight Norton now for the British - Herbie Hide? Or is he already passed that level.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 08 May 2008, 13:57

stujones wrote:I wonder who will fight Norton now for the British - Herbie Hide? Or is he already passed that level.

Three names are in the running for Norton's vacant British title-fight in Wolverhampton on June 20: Coventry’s Neil Simpson, Sheffield's Buster Keeton and Rugby's Carl Wright, although Carl will be out of the running as he was stabbed on Monday and was moved back into intensive care earlier today.

The opponent will be released when the BBBofC release their next set of notices in the next few days.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 May 2008, 14:08

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:
stujones wrote:I wonder who will fight Norton now for the British - Herbie Hide? Or is he already passed that level.
Three names are in the running for Norton's vacant British title-fight in Wolverhampton on June 20: Coventry’s Neil Simpson, Sheffield's Buster Keeton and Rugby's Carl Wright, although Carl will be out of the running as he was stabbed on Monday and was moved back into intensive care earlier today.

The opponent will be released when the BBBofC release their next set of notices in the next few days.

Very sad to hear about Wright - that is terrible news.

Hasn't Keeton retired also?.... Neil Simpson - surely one of his many recent opponents who have beaten him are more worthy?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 08 May 2008, 14:15

Bit more on the Carl Wright story,

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/r ... -20878866/

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 08 May 2008, 15:36

What about Enzo?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 May 2008, 15:50

Sad story indeed, wonder if there was history or whether it was just a random prick who done it.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 09 May 2008, 04:30

stujones wrote:Very sad to hear about Wright - that is terrible news.

Hasn't Keeton retired also?.... Neil Simpson - surely one of his many recent opponents who have beaten him are more worthy?

Yeah, but Neil has (albeit against limited opposition) put a decent little run (four fights unbeaten since September but has won his last five) together since making his return last September, winning the British Masters title in the process. Of his last few losses: one was on cuts against Leigh Allis, a fight he was winning, and the other was a close and controversial loss to Gareth Hogg (early 2005 and 2006 and both at light-heavy).

Neil seems to have found a bit of form at cruiserweight. That said, Norton would flatten him or Keeton – not sure if he has retired – without as much as breaking sweat.

Rob said to me the other day that he doesn’t care who he fights, just as long as they turn up.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 09 May 2008, 04:31

steve689 wrote:Sad story indeed, wonder if there was history or whether it was just a random prick who done it.

Let’s put it this way: Carl isn’t a stranger to trouble. Still, he looks like his totally blameless in this instance.

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 11 May 2008, 15:52

micky steeds should get the fight with norton around july/aug time

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 12 May 2008, 03:50

British cruiserweight champion Mark Hobson has apparently called it a day - still holding the magnificent Lonsdale Belt.
The 32-year-old Huddersfield banger found himself trudging the same old path when he reclaimed the British title with a repeat four-round thumping of Sheffield's John Keeton last September, and was then tentatively lined up to defend against Stourbridge southpaw Rob Norton next month in the Midlands - a man he had also previously licked. Clearly, lack of motivation must have been a huge factor in Hobson's decision, although a disastrous 71-second loss at the hands of Swansea's Enzo Maccarinelli two fights ago no doubt also played a part.
Hobson had held Maccarinelli to a tight decision just a few months earlier.
Nice guy Mark turned pro back in 1997 and powered his way to an early big fight with South African bogeyman Sebastiaan Rothmann in April 2001 in Liverpool, where Rothmann proved too seasoned, but Hobson was desperately unlucky a fight later against Germany's current WBA cruiserweight champion Firat Arslan, when he picked up a cut from a clash of heads in the seventh round of an eight-rounder in Barnsley he had totally, totally dominated.
He was ruled out by the referee
Cuts were a bugbear to the giant 6ft 5ins Yorkshireman who survived a terrible one to trounce the useful Norton for the vacant British title in Sheffield in 2003, dropping Norton twice with his pet right hand. It was a title Hobson defended almost as he pleased on the way to the Lonsdale Belt outright: a brilliant six-round stoppage of Lee Swaby, a crushing third-round knockout of Tony Moran, a convincing decision over Bruce Scott... Hobson was probably the best cruiserweight in the country when took on Maccarinelli in a WBU title encounter in Manchester in March 2006 and shook up the Welsh puncher in the opening rounds, but Maccarinelli rallied with a flash fourth-round knockdown and it developed into a thrilling see-saw affair that went all he way. Maccarinelli got it by 116-112 and two scores of 114-113; in other words, Hobson would have won but for the knockdown.
The big man's chin could let him down, yet Mark always dragged himself up, dusted himself off and invariably came back to win. The Maccarinelli rematch proved an exception. Hobson took a clubbing right - similar to a right David Haye later uncorked against Jean-Marc Mormeck in Paris - dragged himself up and was ruled out in stunningly quick fashion, his legs clearly unsteady.
He came back against Keeton eight months ago.
Hobson was close to a fight with Haye once or twice; the two had sparred and were on relatively friendly terms until a war of words between their trainers over the internet turned things ugly. Shame. It would have been fun while it lasted. The Hobson of three or four years ago definitely stood a puncher's chance with Haye.
Ultimately, Hobson set a hot pace, dished it out, knew how to finish opponents and was no 'on top' fighter. And he retires as the reigning British champion. Not a bad way to go.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 12 May 2008, 03:54

bennie wrote:British cruiserweight champion Mark Hobson has apparently called it a day - still holding the magnificent Lonsdale Belt.
The 32-year-old Huddersfield banger found himself trudging the same old path when he reclaimed the British title with a repeat four-round thumping of Sheffield's John Keeton last September, and was then tentatively lined up to defend against Stourbridge southpaw Rob Norton next month in the Midlands - a man he had also previously licked. Clearly, lack of motivation must have been a huge factor in Hobson's decision, although a disastrous 71-second loss at the hands of Swansea's Enzo Maccarinelli two fights ago no doubt also played a part.
Hobson had held Maccarinelli to a tight decision just a few months earlier.
Nice guy Mark turned pro back in 1997 and powered his way to an early big fight with South African bogeyman Sebastiaan Rothmann in April 2001 in Liverpool, where Rothmann proved too seasoned, but Hobson was desperately unlucky a fight later against current WBA cruiserweight champion Firat Arslan, when he picked up a cut from a clash of heads in the seventh round of an eight-rounder in Barnsley he had totally, totally dominated.
He was ruled out by the referee
Cuts were a bugbear to the giant 6ft 5ins Yorkshireman who survived a terrible one over the left eye to trounce the useful Norton for the vacant British title in Sheffield in 2003, dropping Norton twice with his pet right hand. It was a title Hobson defended almost as he pleased on the way to the Lonsdale Belt outright: a brilliant six-round stoppage of Lee Swaby, a crushing third-round knockout of Tony Moran, a convincing decision over Bruce Scott... Hobson was probably the best cruiserweight in the country when took on Maccarinelli in a WBU title encounter in Manchester in March 2006 and shook up the Welsh puncher in the opening rounds, but Maccarinelli rallied with a flash fourth-round knockdown and it developed into a thrilling see-saw affair that went all he way. Maccarinelli got it by 116-112 and two scores of 114-113; in other words, Hobson would have won but for the knockdown.
The big man's chin could let him down, yet Mark always dragged himself up, dusted himself down and invariably came back to win. The Maccarinelli rematch proved an exception. Hobson took a clubbing right - similar to a right David Haye later uncorked against Jean-Marc Mormeck in Paris - dragged himself up and was ruled out in stunningly quick fashion, his legs clearly unsteady.
He came back against Keeton eight months ago.
Hobson was close to a fight with Haye once or twice; the two had sparred and were on relatively friendly terms until a war of words between their trainers over the internet turned things ugly. Shame. It would have been fun while it lasted. The Hobson of three or four years ago certainly stood a puncher's chance with Haye.
Ultimately, Hobson set a hot pace, dished it out, knew how to finish opponents and was no 'on top' fighter. And he retired as the reigning British champion. Not a bad way to go.

Bennie - can I ask you something? Why do you write posts as if you are going to publish them in boxing news? Have you been published yet? I don't think so!

I know it is all opinion and some people like how you post but I find it extremly irritating - you are just writing everything we all know anyway

Here is a tip if you are to continue writing like you do - tell us something we don't know! It might make it more interesting!

Don't get upset folks - It's just a personal opinion on the (irritating) writing
style of an esteemed poster! :P

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 12 May 2008, 04:33

I like them.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 12 May 2008, 04:38

Yeah, if he wants to practise his writing, i say more power to him. i dont write enough proper posts to do that, but if he feels he has all that to say, then great. I know its a bit 'newsy', and its not new news, but its not hurting anyone

punchers chance · Post by **punchers chance** » 12 May 2008, 06:24

Carlos-Wigan wrote: Bennie - can I ask you something? Why do you write posts as if you are going to publish them in boxing news? Have you been published yet? I don't think so!

I know it is all opinion and some people like how you post but I find it extremly irritating - you are just writing everything we all know anyway Here is a tip if you are to continue writing like you do - tell us something we don't know! It might make it more interesting!

Don't get upset folks - It's just a personal opinion on the (irritating) writing
style of an esteemed poster! :P

Didn't Bennie used to be a boxing journalist? I think his posts are good.

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 12 May 2008, 06:35

Carlos-Wigan wrote:
bennie wrote:British cruiserweight champion Mark Hobson has apparently called it a day - still holding the magnificent Lonsdale Belt.
The 32-year-old Huddersfield banger found himself trudging the same old path when he reclaimed the British title with a repeat four-round thumping of Sheffield's John Keeton last September, and was then tentatively lined up to defend against Stourbridge southpaw Rob Norton next month in the Midlands - a man he had also previously licked. Clearly, lack of motivation must have been a huge factor in Hobson's decision, although a disastrous 71-second loss at the hands of Swansea's Enzo Maccarinelli two fights ago no doubt also played a part.
Hobson had held Maccarinelli to a tight decision just a few months earlier.
Nice guy Mark turned pro back in 1997 and powered his way to an early big fight with South African bogeyman Sebastiaan Rothmann in April 2001 in Liverpool, where Rothmann proved too seasoned, but Hobson was desperately unlucky a fight later against current WBA cruiserweight champion Firat Arslan, when he picked up a cut from a clash of heads in the seventh round of an eight-rounder in Barnsley he had totally, totally dominated.
He was ruled out by the referee
Cuts were a bugbear to the giant 6ft 5ins Yorkshireman who survived a terrible one over the left eye to trounce the useful Norton for the vacant British title in Sheffield in 2003, dropping Norton twice with his pet right hand. It was a title Hobson defended almost as he pleased on the way to the Lonsdale Belt outright: a brilliant six-round stoppage of Lee Swaby, a crushing third-round knockout of Tony Moran, a convincing decision over Bruce Scott... Hobson was probably the best cruiserweight in the country when took on Maccarinelli in a WBU title encounter in Manchester in March 2006 and shook up the Welsh puncher in the opening rounds, but Maccarinelli rallied with a flash fourth-round knockdown and it developed into a thrilling see-saw affair that went all he way. Maccarinelli got it by 116-112 and two scores of 114-113; in other words, Hobson would have won but for the knockdown.
The big man's chin could let him down, yet Mark always dragged himself up, dusted himself down and invariably came back to win. The Maccarinelli rematch proved an exception. Hobson took a clubbing right - similar to a right David Haye later uncorked against Jean-Marc Mormeck in Paris - dragged himself up and was ruled out in stunningly quick fashion, his legs clearly unsteady.
He came back against Keeton eight months ago.
Hobson was close to a fight with Haye once or twice; the two had sparred and were on relatively friendly terms until a war of words between their trainers over the internet turned things ugly. Shame. It would have been fun while it lasted. The Hobson of three or four years ago certainly stood a puncher's chance with Haye.
Ultimately, Hobson set a hot pace, dished it out, knew how to finish opponents and was no 'on top' fighter. And he retired as the reigning British champion. Not a bad way to go.
Bennie - can I ask you something? Why do you write posts as if you are going to publish them in boxing news? Have you been published yet? I don't think so!

I know it is all opinion and some people like how you post but I find it extremly irritating - you are just writing everything we all know anyway Here is a tip if you are to continue writing like you do - tell us something we don't know! It might make it more interesting!

Don't get upset folks - It's just a personal opinion on the (irritating) writing
style of an esteemed poster! :P

nothing wrong with a well written article.....u read the bits u want to...no harm at all

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 12 May 2008, 07:20

punchers chance wrote:
Carlos-Wigan wrote: Bennie - can I ask you something? Why do you write posts as if you are going to publish them in boxing news? Have you been published yet? I don't think so!

I know it is all opinion and some people like how you post but I find it extremly irritating - you are just writing everything we all know anyway Here is a tip if you are to continue writing like you do - tell us something we don't know! It might make it more interesting!

Don't get upset folks - It's just a personal opinion on the (irritating) writing
style of an esteemed poster! :P
Didn't Bennie used to be a boxing journalist? I think his posts are good.

He used to write for Boxing News.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 12 May 2008, 07:29

Yeah, sorry if they seem a bit out of place. I drop them on here and some get picked up and some don't. I write most regularly for The Pink these days, where Tony is.