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Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:22
by mark thompson
Whats your thoughts guys ? I think Froch is underrated, also Skelton if he had got into boxing a little earlier anyone think he might have won a world title ????

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:36
by Old bones Ian
Martin Gethin seems to be underrated, in both his recent fights he was the underdog, but came through with impressive stoppages.

Would anyone say Derek Chisora is underrated?

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:37
by Counter-puncher
ha i was going to say gethin too.

No, Skelton wouldn't have won a world title.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:40
by johnswan1
mark thompson wrote:Whats your thoughts guys ? I think Froch is underrated, also Skelton if he had got into boxing a little earlier anyone think he might have won a world title ????
I don't think Froch is underrated. He's well thought of - he just hasn't fought any big names yet & that's not really any fault of his own.

If Skelton had got into boxing a little earlier I don't think he'd have won a world title & would probably be retired by now. I would very easily rank the prime Williams & Sprott ahead of a prime Skelton, and I wouldn't have considered either of them to be world class.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:45
by mark thompson
johnswan1 wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Whats your thoughts guys ? I think Froch is underrated, also Skelton if he had got into boxing a little earlier anyone think he might have won a world title ????
I don't think Froch is underrated. He's well thought of - he just hasn't fought any big names yet & that's not really any fault of his own.

If Skelton had got into boxing a little earlier I don't think he'd have won a world title & would probably be retired by now. I would very easily rank the prime Williams & Sprott ahead of a prime Skelton, and I wouldn't have considered either of them to be world class.
I have to disagree with you there John, i think a prime and up for the fight Williams was probably better than Skelton but not Sprott.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:49
by mark thompson
Old bones Ian wrote:Martin Gethin seems to be underrated, in both his recent fights he was the underdog, but came through with impressive stoppages.

Would anyone say Derek Chisora is underrated?

Derek Chisora is a very good shout why didn't he have a crack at prizefighter ??

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:49
by Old bones Ian
Have to agree there, a prime Sprott actually fought Skelton , and couldn't beat him

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:52
by Old bones Ian
mark thompson wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Martin Gethin seems to be underrated, in both his recent fights he was the underdog, but came through with impressive stoppages.

Would anyone say Derek Chisora is underrated?

Derek Chisora is a very good shout why didn't he have a crack at prizefighter ??
Think he was one of the reserves for the first Prizefighter, and the second show coencided with the Warren promotion last weekend.
So Warren needed Chisora to fight on that show.
I've heard good and Bad about Derek, but his KO win over Sam Sexton looks good now.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 10:55
by mark thompson
Old bones Ian wrote:
mark thompson wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Martin Gethin seems to be underrated, in both his recent fights he was the underdog, but came through with impressive stoppages.

Would anyone say Derek Chisora is underrated?

Derek Chisora is a very good shout why didn't he have a crack at prizefighter ??
Think he was one of the reserves for the first Prizefighter, and the second show coencided with the Warren promotion last weekend.
So Warren needed Chisora to fight on that show.
I've heard good and Bad about Derek, but his KO win over Sam Sexton looks good now.
Looks very good indeed now, also Skelton beat Sprott after only 12 professional bouts Sprott had, had over 30

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 11:06
by Wales
Jamie Moore, many dont think he's above British title level, in that respect underated. I'd give him a good shout against virtually anyone in the division.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 11:58
by Walker Smith Jr.
Wales wrote:Jamie Moore, many dont think he's above British title level, in that respect underated. I'd give him a good shout against virtually anyone in the division.
I'd go with Ryan Rhodes for the same reason.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 12:33
by twenty six
The one thing you can say with asurance is that Carl Froch is NOT underrated.
If anything, overhyped.
You cannot have seen too much of Skelton if you believe by starting earlier he'd have been a World Champ.
He has done well with his career - it would be wrong to expect any more.
I'm gonna keep a close eye on Chisora. I like what I hear.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 16:16
by Loftgroov
Ryan Rhodes has been around long enough though hasn't he. He's a known quantity really, and in that sense is neither under or over-rated.

Murray or Brook perhaps. Possibly even Kevin Mitchell. Who knows.... until they are tested.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 17:25
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 17:27
by DG.
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..
He is a farud because he is the boy next door bullshit crap that he spouts plus all the recent shit he has been saying.

Plus...

Struggled with Collazo.

Struggled with Urango

Struggled with Lazcano

Me say O O Os!


Hatton is overrated.


:D

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 17:35
by rhino222
not sure if anyone will agree but chirosa reminds me a bit of gary mason

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 17:54
by Wales
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..
Then resorts to throwing single shots against lazcano and gets caught repetedly, or perhaps the struggle with collazo and to a degree urango. Tszyu was his prime.55 thousand to fight a mexican lightweight.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 18:04
by WildWaylon
rhino222 wrote:not sure if anyone will agree but chirosa reminds me a bit of gary mason
Can anyone remember Wire TV? They sometimes put boxing on and Gary Mason was the presenter one night. Has to be the worst presenter ever. Poor sod got into a mess and asked somebody the same question twice.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 18:17
by WildWaylon
DG. wrote:
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..
He is a farud because he is the boy next door bullshit crap that he spouts plus all the recent shit he has been saying.

Plus...

Struggled with Collazo.

Struggled with Urango

Struggled with Lazcano

Me say O O Os!


Hatton is overrated.


:D
Come on DG, I am no Hatton hugger but its pretty hard to describe the guy as overrated.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 18:33
by stujones
I would say Colin Lynes, in terms of hype. I think he is geniune lower end of the world's top ten but never get thought about in terms of a world title fight.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 18:43
by DG.
WildWaylon wrote:
DG. wrote:
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..
He is a farud because he is the boy next door bullshit crap that he spouts plus all the recent shit he has been saying.

Plus...

Struggled with Collazo.

Struggled with Urango

Struggled with Lazcano

Me say O O Os!


Hatton is overrated.


:D
Come on DG, I am no Hatton hugger but its pretty hard to describe the guy as overrated.


I take your comments on board - but the fact remains he struggles at the lowest level of World Class ( Urango and a past it Lazcano) he is a good level Euro fighter with a fan base!

IMO hw never proved he was number 1 over in the UK.

His own fault!

Overrated!

At one time someone said he was the best british fighter ever!


Over R A T E D!

:D

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 19:16
by mark thompson
twenty six wrote:The one thing you can say with asurance is that Carl Froch is NOT underrated.
If anything, overhyped.
You cannot have seen too much of Skelton if you believe by starting earlier he'd have been a World Champ.
He has done well with his career - it would be wrong to expect any more.
I'm gonna keep a close eye on Chisora. I like what I hear.


Read what i said ???? i didnt say i thought he would be world champion . I said did anybody think he would be world champion. Idiot.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 19:18
by mark thompson
DG. wrote:
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Ricky Hatton


Gets stopped by PFP all time great and is considered a fraud



ummmmmmm, ok..
He is a farud because he is the boy next door bullshit crap that he spouts plus all the recent shit he has been saying.

Plus...

Struggled with Collazo.

Struggled with Urango

Struggled with Lazcano

Me say O O Os!


Hatton is overrated.


:D

DG go home !!! You are so anti Hatton it's unreal

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 21:14
by stujones
He hardly struggled with Urango, and I think a good case could be made for a shut out against Lazcano - that wasn't a struggle.

Re: Britains must underrated active boxer ??

Posted: 19 Sep 2008, 22:24
by SticknMove
This is a BS thread.

No fighter is under-rated or over-rated untill he steps up through the levels. It is that obvious.

Hatton is neither under-rated or over-rated – he’s a guy that is very popular and very good at the top end of the sport - something that any young fighter should aspire toward and try to surpass if he can.