James Kirkland, one tough muvver

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Not sure if many of you caught Kirlkands fight with Julio. This was my first time seeing this guy in action and he is all action.

He's a bit like Mayorga with dedication. Took Julios best punches, this from a guy who has 30 odd kayos in 35 fights. Wore him down and beat him up.

He is a right handful at 154lbs and could be the most exciting fighter out there right now.

Worth a look if you get the chance.
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Ive seen him on a few times against lesser fighters, he certainly stepped it up a level against Julio.
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the guy is pure quality
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I'd like to see him against a slick fighter that can move before I hail him as the best in the division. For me, Foreman and Angulo are better prospects.

Plus Wolf's training regime will eventually catch up with him. Be a good ride whilst it lasts, though.
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I have been following him for a while now. Ultra exciting fighter. He reminds me of Nigel Benn with his all action style. Is willing to take a shot to give one.

Great power to the body as well. He should go all the way.

I would like to see Cotto step up a division and take him on in the future, would be a classic. Cotto would school him IMO
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forcefraser wrote: Cotto would school him IMO
He would stop Cotto the same way Margarito did, styles make fights and Kirkland is all wrong for Miguel.
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He's exciting. Best he makes his money now. Move him fast, keep him busy, get him his big opportunity. As he'll burn out. When a stocky guy like that sees his prime slip by, he's seldom any good any more.
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He's good, but he's got big holes in his game. Right now his determination and aggressivness overcomes that, but if he fights a more seasoned champion he'll have some problems. Good to watch though.
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Yeah i'd compare him with Benn as well, actually with guys like Kirkland and Benn its not the movers that give them problems, its when someone stands with them and gets them on the back foot.
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Hes nowhere near the level of a BEnn, more like a Jeff Lacy or Sam Peter who will be schooled when he meets a good boxer
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America and HBO have found their new....

Jeff Lacy.

Hallelujah!
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Tavoris Cloud looks like the best sawn off American slugger (light heavyweight).
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Plus Wolf's training regime will eventually catch up with him. Be a good ride whilst it lasts, though.
Hi Emerson.

What's Wolfe's training regime like? I'm assuming it's much the same as hers used to be -- & I can't see her getting those arms & shoulders from padwork & star-jumps -- so is it massively punishing? Does she put him through some kind of high-tech weights thing?

I'd love to know, I've not heard anything of his training before.
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See if the vids are still on youtube mate. There was also a few article deriding her for it.

Ones that spring to mind; The Wolf would drive a pickup truck, with a heavy bag on the bag, and make James run behind it hitting it gradullay speeding up. She'd also make him spar more than one person at a time in a 16 foot ring and on occasion tied his arms together and he had to evade up to 3 fighters at once.

She also allegedly made him spar prison inmates and they were allowed to fight dirty.
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Autobarn wrote:Tavoris Cloud looks like the best sawn off American slugger (light heavyweight).
Any idea what happened to Antillon? HBO and Harold were tipping him for greatness, then nothing.
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Tavoris Cloud looks like the best sawn off American slugger (light heavyweight).
Any idea what happened to Antillon? HBO and Harold were tipping him for greatness, then nothing.
Was that Urbano Antillon? , think he's being Pacman's sparring partner for the Hatton fight, might see him on the undercard
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Tavoris Cloud looks like the best sawn off American slugger (light heavyweight).
Any idea what happened to Antillon? HBO and Harold were tipping him for greatness, then nothing.
I consider Antillon as a Mexican. I think he's rated well in the WBC. Been in plenty of under the radar fights on Latino channels.
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Cheers Guys. I'm a big Urbano fan but since his Bob Pac demolition been a bit under the radar.
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:See if the vids are still on youtube mate. There was also a few article deriding her for it.

Ones that spring to mind; The Wolf would drive a pickup truck, with a heavy bag on the bag, and make James run behind it hitting it gradullay speeding up. She'd also make him spar more than one person at a time in a 16 foot ring and on occasion tied his arms together and he had to evade up to 3 fighters at once.

She also allegedly made him spar prison inmates and they were allowed to fight dirty.
She also had him flipping a 70lb tyre with a shovel across a field. Her style is old old school.
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Cheers Guys. I'm a big Urbano fan but since his Bob Pac demolition been a bit under the radar.
I like him a lot. He's like Humberto Soto but closes the distance faster, fights a bit shorter. Is he with Top Rank? Methinks if Soto gets a good win, and seeks out a big name at lightweight, then Antillon would be next in line for the WBC belt.
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Autobarn wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Cheers Guys. I'm a big Urbano fan but since his Bob Pac demolition been a bit under the radar.
I like him a lot. He's like Humberto Soto but closes the distance faster, fights a bit shorter. Is he with Top Rank? Methinks if Soto gets a good win, and seeks out a big name at lightweight, then Antillon would be next in line for the WBC belt.
GBP :TU:
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Joel Julio has some reasonable wins ( K9 & Ishe Smith ! ) but it's not like he has cut the mustard at 154lb has he ?

Kirkland seems exciting - but the talk is that he will face off against the heavy handed Mexican Alfred Angulo 15-0 (12ko) this year at some point before heading for belts.
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Cheers Guys. I'm a big Urbano fan but since his Bob Pac demolition been a bit under the radar.
I like him a lot. He's like Humberto Soto but closes the distance faster, fights a bit shorter. Is he with Top Rank? Methinks if Soto gets a good win, and seeks out a big name at lightweight, then Antillon would be next in line for the WBC belt.
GBP :TU:
Really?

Maybe they would send him in with Soto, eventually, then.
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Fair play to Kirkland. Every fight people right him off and predict he will get stopped or that he has no defence etc but each time he performs and gives wildly exciting performances. Good luck to him :TU:
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Good performance, great win. Think Julio just quit though - I had it 3/3 at the end of the 6th. Kirkland does look a little raw, but with a bit of head movement and learning how to pace a fight, I think he could be the business.
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