Neil Sinclair v Henry Coyle

[slapbangwhallop]

On the Rogan undercard - best All Ireland bout since..............

[steve689]

Missed this one. Will be a cracker if it comes off. Sinky has the power but is a touch fragile while Coyle comes forward but lacks a bit of imagination in his work. Great stuff.

[DG.]

Missed this one. Will be a cracker if it comes off. Sinky has the power but is a touch fragile while Coyle comes forward but lacks a bit of imagination in his work. Great stuff.

I really am not sure what to make of Sinclair, seems to be forever making a move but always going backwards.

I wish him well, one of the real puchers!

[slapbangwhallop]

Missed this one. Will be a cracker if it comes off. Sinky has the power but is a touch fragile while Coyle comes forward but lacks a bit of imagination in his work. Great stuff.

Coyle can dig a little himself - I reckon he could KO Sinky unless Neil outsmarts him.

Best all Ireland match since Hyland v Griffin??

[BigEars]

Missed this one. Will be a cracker if it comes off. Sinky has the power but is a touch fragile while Coyle comes forward but lacks a bit of imagination in his work. Great stuff.

Coyle can dig a little himself - I reckon he could KO Sinky unless Neil outsmarts him.

Best all Ireland match since Hyland v Griffin??

Ya Hyland Griffin was probably the last decent one.
With that said Eddie Hyland and Kevin O'Hara on the same night as that wasn't a bad standard.

Coyle's record is deceptive, he fights like a puncher, his record would tell us he's a puncher and yet in his only fight back in Ireland he wasn't the puncher in the ring. A man who is at least a Light-Welterweight(and could probably make Lightweight) put more of a dent in Henry than Henry could put in him.

With that said I think Henry may have enough to get the job done here. Sinclair's whiskers were always a question and now that the speed and reflexes are severely diminished a technically inferior fighter to him like Coyle may able to break him down and stop him with aw aggression.
It's a very interesting match up and does seem kind of a 50/50 fight, but I reckon Coyle will just take this(inside the distance too).

[Arnie]

Come on Henry

[metropol]

unless coyle makes improvements don't think he will go too far. I heard that when he fought in Ireland he planned to carry his opponent and knock him out in the later rounds , he thought the fight was a 10 rounder but it was changed to a 8 rounder so this upset his plans. He is not a big puncher i think its a accumulation of punches that get to his opponent.

[bennie]

Neil Sinclair looks to dismiss his many doubters in a pending showdown with big Irish rival Henry Coyle next month in Belfast.
Sinclair, 35, looked like one of the best fighters in Britain when he dismantled talented Welshman Bradley Pryce in eight rounds in his native Belfast in 2003 to secure a Lonsdale Belt for life. Then it all started to go wrong for the big-hitting "Sinky" who picked up a "sick note" reputation and, if he did turn up, folded on the night to so-so opponents after just a few rounds. His appetite for the game was gone, they said. It was hard to argue.
Given all that, Sinclair confounded the experts last June in Italy where he went 12 hard rounds with unbeaten local man Daniele Petrucci for the EU welterweight title before conceding a close but unanimous decision. Petrucci was coming off a three-round crushing of Manchester's Craig Watson, the recently deposed Commonwealth welterweight champion, so it shows you what a fine, gutsy display Neil produced that night. He was once good enough to challenge dangerous Puerto Rican Daniel Santos for the WBO welterweight title in a brief but spectacular affair in Sheffield. Sinclair had Santos on the floor but walked on to one in the second round. Santos can do that to anyone.
To the aggressive, determined, more dependable Coyle, the younger man at 27 and the man on the way up in a sport where timing is all important. Already, Henry looks to have the edge over the unreliable Sinclair but Coyle, from County Mayo in Southern Ireland has done much of his fighting in American backwaters against hillbillies (think of Deliverance), and we all know how bad Oklahoma-based Oisin Fagan turned out to be against Amir Khan in London in December. Similarly, Coyle was knocked out in a proper fight by Omar Bell in New York a couple of years ago (one round) but has come back with eight wins on the spin (seven early) to take his record to 10-1 (9). His one distance fight came in his one appearance in Ireland (to date), which again speaks volumes for the standard of opposition he has faced in the States. Apparently, he didn't look great outcoring Latvia's Sergejs Savrinovics over eight rounds last November in Castlebar and concedes home advantage to Sinclair, of course.
Nevertheless, Coyle is a former top amateur, carries a bit of a dig and will certainly get stuck into the more naturally talented, more experienced Sinclair, a pro since 1995. This is a fight to get excited about for Irish fight fans, already celebrating the recent world title crowning of Dubliner Bernard Dunne and the surprise emergence of Martin Rogan as a world class fighter himself, a white hope at that. Henry will look to outwork Neil from the start with a high-tempo attack, look to break his will. We know for sure what Coyle will turn up on the night.
Sadly, we cannot say the same for Sinclair.

[teddy007]

Henry Coyle is one paced, lacks power but has good pressure, 5yrs ago Sinclair would of smashed him and easy. Not too sure now.

[berealman]

some good match ups. who else is on the bill?

[metropol]

Henry Coyle is one paced, lacks power but has good pressure, 5yrs ago Sinclair would of smashed him and easy. Not too sure now.

Well said . Do you think he will improve?
I seen him in mayo and was expecting more as all his fights finished by ko so i thought he must be a huge puncher. He either was fighting total tomato cans or else its an aculmulation of punches to the body etc. His work rate is great though.

[teddy007]

Henry Coyle is one paced, lacks power but has good pressure, 5yrs ago Sinclair would of smashed him and easy. Not too sure now.

Well said . Do you think he will improve?
I seen him in mayo and was expecting more as all his fights finished by ko so i thought he must be a huge puncher. He either was fighting total tomato cans or else its an aculmulation of punches to the body etc. His work rate is great though.

He wont because he takes too many punches, is not very athletic and my feeling is he wont be around for very long. Just doen't have the quality of a champion. No shame in that though, I think he been stopped already and does not puch hard really, its more acumulation of punches and at a higher level fighters will walk through him.

[steve689]

Coyle said after the Mayo show (topped by Dunne-Faccio) that he would become a world champion undoubtedly, but I am unsure. The Sinclair bout makes so much sense for both men and is a great piece of matchmaking IMO.

The best all-Ireland scrap since Hyland-O'Hara, April last year in Dublin. Cracking stuff!!

[metropol]

Coyle said after the Mayo show (topped by Dunne-Faccio) that he would become a world champion undoubtedly, but I am unsure. The Sinclair bout makes so much sense for both men and is a great piece of matchmaking IMO.

The best all-Ireland scrap since Hyland-O'Hara, April last year in Dublin. Cracking stuff!!

Unless he makes drastic improvments he wont even leave domestic level .For me his mayo performance was shocking . i wonder was it nerves of coming home?

[teddy007]

Coyle said after the Mayo show (topped by Dunne-Faccio) that he would become a world champion undoubtedly, but I am unsure. The Sinclair bout makes so much sense for both men and is a great piece of matchmaking IMO.

The best all-Ireland scrap since Hyland-O'Hara, April last year in Dublin. Cracking stuff!!

Unless he makes drastic improvments he wont even leave domestic level .For me his mayo performance was shocking . i wonder was it nerves of coming home?

No he simply does not have the tools to be a championship level fighter at anyhting abouve domestic class.

[metropol]

Coyle said after the Mayo show (topped by Dunne-Faccio) that he would become a world champion undoubtedly, but I am unsure. The Sinclair bout makes so much sense for both men and is a great piece of matchmaking IMO.

The best all-Ireland scrap since Hyland-O'Hara, April last year in Dublin. Cracking stuff!!

Unless he makes drastic improvments he wont even leave domestic level .For me his mayo performance was shocking . i wonder was it nerves of coming home?

No he simply does not have the tools to be a championship level fighter at anyhting abouve domestic class.

Can these tools not be gained?

[teddy007]

"Can these tools not be gained?" highly un-likely but not impossible. Power is natural, he is a plodder like in the steve collins mould but without the same strenght/power.

[BigEars]

"Can these tools not be gained?" highly un-likely but not impossible. Power is natural, he is a plodder like in the steve collins mould but without the same strenght/power.

Collins was actually pretty damn skilled to be fair, just not as polished as the man he is most famous for beating(Eubank) and the manner in which he did it.

I don't think Coyle will go past domestic level, James Moore would probably show him up quite badly and we saw how far Moore was off World Class against Yuri Foreman.

Funny hearing Mayo being referred to as 'Souther Ireland' though, yes it's in the Republic of Ireland(or 'Ireland' if you want to use the country's official title) but with its geographical position the term often applied by British people(Southern Ireland) just sounds ridiculous.
Not quite as ridiculous as Donegal being referred to as 'Southern Ireland', which I've heard in the past.

[irish view]

coyle has only had what 10 fites let see what happens in the next fite with sinky , in his last fite he only found out about the guy he was fite 24 hours before the fite pluse he was told it was a ten rud fite and at the beginging of the 8 was told it ewas only 8.if lee was 2 drop down to 158 i wud say coyle wud fite him. now that a big if

[slapbangwhallop]

coyle has only had what 10 fites let see what happens in the next fite with sinky , in his last fite he only found out about the guy he was fite 24 hours before the fite pluse he was told it was a ten rud fite and at the beginging of the 8 was told it ewas only 8.if lee was 2 drop down to 158 i wud say coyle wud fite him. now that a big if

Coyle looks pretty doughy! I reckon he could drop down 1 if not 2 weights himself!

[teddy007]

coyle has only had what 10 fites let see what happens in the next fite with sinky , in his last fite he only found out about the guy he was fite 24 hours before the fite pluse he was told it was a ten rud fite and at the beginging of the 8 was told it ewas only 8.if lee was 2 drop down to 158 i wud say coyle wud fite him. now that a big if

Couple of spelling mistakes their bro, but I get the meaning of what your saying.

[steve689]

coyle has only had what 10 fites let see what happens in the next fite with sinky , in his last fite he only found out about the guy he was fite 24 hours before the fite pluse he was told it was a ten rud fite and at the beginging of the 8 was told it ewas only 8.if lee was 2 drop down to 158 i wud say coyle wud fite him. now that a big if

Couple of spelling mistakes their bro, but I get the meaning of what your saying.

Hey lay off him Teddy


Seriously, I always thought Coyle could boil down to welter or even a further division.

[slapbangwhallop]

coyle has only had what 10 fites let see what happens in the next fite with sinky , in his last fite he only found out about the guy he was fite 24 hours before the fite pluse he was told it was a ten rud fite and at the beginging of the 8 was told it ewas only 8.if lee was 2 drop down to 158 i wud say coyle wud fite him. now that a big if

Couple of spelling mistakes their bro, but I get the meaning of what your saying.

Hey lay off him Teddy


Seriously, I always thought Coyle could boil down to welter or even a further division.

yip! the tourettes in me wants to shout out "fat fook!" but I have so far resisted!

[NaFianna]

and we all know how bad Oklahoma-based Oisin Fagan turned out to be against Amir Khan in London in December. Similarly, Coyle was knocked out in a proper fight by Omar Bell in New York a couple of years ago (one round) but has come back with eight wins on the spin (seven early) to take his record to 10-1 (9). .

Thats ridiculous. Poor Fagan broke his leg after 2 minutes, so there's absolutely nothing you can equate from that argument.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2009/0311/fagano.html

[Deserter]

and we all know how bad Oklahoma-based Oisin Fagan turned out to be against Amir Khan in London in December. Similarly, Coyle was knocked out in a proper fight by Omar Bell in New York a couple of years ago (one round) but has come back with eight wins on the spin (seven early) to take his record to 10-1 (9). .

Thats ridiculous. Poor Fagan broke his leg after 2 minutes, so there's absolutely nothing you can equate from that argument.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2009/0311/fagano.html

Broken leg or no broken leg, Khan would have blown Fagan away in the early rounds - he was so clearly a different class.